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TiQuinn

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I've kind of realized that getting hung up on where food originates from isn't really worth the effort for me.

Recipes and foods move with people, and are influenced by where they are, what ingredients they have, etc. General Tso's Chicken isn't from originally China, but made by Chinese immigrants, so does it make it either any less Chinese, or any less American? Tomatoes are from South America, but that didn't stop Italy from adopting them, and eventually putting a DOP designation on their own varietals.
 

Bedrockgames

I post in the voice of Christopher Walken
Yes, and my DNA is an old European recipe, but I'm not really European.

If you confuse origin with current ownership, you get weird things like the the Dodgers baseball team

I just think there is a lot mythology around NY cuisine (and sometimes that comes with a dose of arrogance----at least from my point of view from a Boston bakery): i.e. "its the water", "Its the large number of people and restaurants and the competition" etc. All those things can contribute to cuisine but nothing is stopping someone in a small town from making the same exact thing you make in NY (and people in small towns like good food too). Also cities exist outside NY.

To be clear I am not saying NYers can't be proud of their food, or that they can't take something from somewhere else, refine it and claim it as their own. If we were talking pizza, I would like quibble but agree NY pizza is its own thing and NY probably has a claim to perfecting the American pizza. But bagels are different. They aren't made any differently in NY than they are where I worked in Boston (pretty much any place that had a population of Jewish immigrants from places like Poland would have done the traditional methods). When bagels first spread in the US, a lot of places didn't follow all the recipe or steps, which is why a NY bagel tastes so good in contrast to some of those kinds of bagels. But places that were boiling them before baking and doing everything else, you can make the same quality bagel.
 






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