Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Staffan]

It didn't take all that long for every other restaurant owner to see that. That's why you have virtually no smoking in restaurants anymore. A smoking section in a restaurant is just WAY too expensive.

Here in Sweden, restaurants and cafés are not allowed to have indoors smoking anymore on account of second-hand smoke being a workplace hazard for waitstaff and other workers.

 

[Ryujin]

The biggest eye opener to me about the whole non-smoking thing was a buddy of mine who owns a Tim Hortons (well a couple of them now, but, one at the time.)

It cost him about 40 grand to change his Timmies to non-smoking. This would have been about 1992 (ish?). You have to basically strip out EVERYTHING from the restaurant and start over.

He made it back in six months. Because smokers come in, have one coffee and sit for half an hour. Non-smokers come in, have a coffee and leave, opening the seat up to other paying customers. It was astonishing to see how much more money he made by going non-smoking.

It didn't take all that long for every other restaurant owner to see that. That's why you have virtually no smoking in restaurants anymore. A smoking section in a restaurant is just WAY too expensive.

The laws in Ontario called for a completely separate section, for smokers, with a separate air system. Very few places wanted to shell out that kind of cash.

 

[Hussar]

Here in Sweden, restaurants and cafés are not allowed to have indoors smoking anymore on account of second-hand smoke being a workplace hazard for waitstaff and other workers.

Canada has largely gone that way too. Heck even Japanis headed that way.

 

[TiQuinn]

Canada has largely gone that way too. Heck even Japanis headed that way.

There’s only one bar in town here in the States near where I live that still allows smoking indoors and that’s because the entire bar allows it, and whoever works there signs paperwork attesting to that. Place is pretty packed most nights.

 

[Hussar]

Pretty much all the resistance to the no smoking thing disappeared when places realized they make a lot more money going non smoking.

 

[Bedrockgames]

There’s only one bar in town here in the States near where I live that still allows smoking indoors and that’s because the entire bar allows it, and whoever works there signs paperwork attesting to that. Place is pretty packed most nights.

In Massachusetts they passed a law in (I think) the early 2000s making it workplaces had to be smoke free. This meant bars, restaurants, etc also had to be smoke free. I still remember there being quite a few smoking sections up to that time

 

[payn]

In Massachusetts they passed a law in (I think) the early 2000s making it workplaces had to be smoke free. This meant bars, restaurants, etc also had to be smoke free. I still remember there being quite a few smoking sections up to that time

Before Minnesota went state wide it was by city to hilarious effect. Minneapolis and St Paul being neighbors an d all but MPLS having a ban. The very first bar across city limits was jammed packed every night. Cloud of smoke so thick it was cartoonish and you had to swim move through the place to find your way.

 

[Meech17]

I worked the bar in a veteran's club for a while and they kept smoking for years after our state banned indoor smoking. So did most of the other private clubs in the area. One by one though, they wouldn't be quick enough to hide the evidence during a surprise visit and got hit with huge fines, and they'd quit allowing it. Most of the guys that frequented these bars were members at most, or all the other ones as well, so a lot of the smokers would end up hanging out somewhere else.

The bar I worked at held on the longest. I was still pulling occasional weekend shifts or working weddings in 2018-2019 and they were still smoking in there. I've heard that they've since relented and gone non-smoking. I'm surprised they were able to hold out as long as they did, but I think being the only game in town for smokers helped them.

It was gross. I got used to it when I was in there.. But at the end of the night after I closed up and walked out, I'd sit in my car and just be overwhelmed by how bad I stunk.

I feel a little bad for smokers, but I do think it's way better now that you can't smoke indoors anymore.

 

[payn]

I worked the bar in a veteran's club for a while and they kept smoking for years after our state banned indoor smoking. So did most of the other private clubs in the area. One by one though, they wouldn't be quick enough to hide the evidence during a surprise visit and got hit with huge fines, and they'd quit allowing it. Most of the guys that frequented these bars were members at most, or all the other ones as well, so a lot of the smokers would end up hanging out somewhere else.

The bar I worked at held on the longest. I was still pulling occasional weekend shifts or working weddings in 2018-2019 and they were still smoking in there. I've heard that they've since relented and gone non-smoking. I'm surprised they were able to hold out as long as they did, but I think being the only game in town for smokers helped them.

It was gross. I got used to it when I was in there.. But at the end of the night after I closed up and walked out, I'd sit in my car and just be overwhelmed by how bad I stunk.

I feel a little bad for smokers, but I do think it's way better now that you can't smoke indoors anymore.

For a time it was a deal, but it seems most folks got over it. I dont hear too many smokers (and I know a good handful) that complain about having to go outside. I think most have come around to just how bad indoor smoking is for everybody.

 

[TiQuinn]

For a time it was a deal, but it seems most folks got over it. I dont hear too many smokers (and I know a good handful) that complain about having to go outside. I think most have come around to just how bad indoor smoking is for everybody.

I have to think a lot of people are happier now having cleaner smelling homes, let alone bars.