Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

You know, you can read a post to comprehend their statements being made or you can read a post to find something to make a snap judgment about and bicker.

I recommend doing the former, not the latter.
Yep. Everyone always thinks they're doing the former, never the latter. And yet...the internet.
 

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It is not only real but lizard men dressed as humans are at the controls.

But let’s not be stupid. Its not made up D&D lizard men: they are more like Diana without a mask in ‘V.’

How do I know? Someone very credible on the internet said so.
I am crying. So the hurricane got made so the government could steal lithium deposits.

They did not send armed soldiers…they developed a cobra commander inspired super weapon to destroy the country.

W
T
A
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Brief reminder-

I am not the owner of this thread, and in the immortal words of Mama Snarf whenever she talked to the police, my teachers, or the raccoons in the backyard ... Can't tell me what to do!

And I certainly can't tell y'all what to do either, nor would I ever presume to.

That said, I will briefly note that while we are welcome to discuss (almost) anything and (almost) everything in this thread, please remember that EnWorld is a no-politics zone, and if you feel like you are getting close to that point, please don't!

Also also, this is supposed to be a respite from bickering- a hootenanny if you will! That doesn't mean "don't argue" but if you feel your blood getting all angry by stuff in this thread ... well, we are collectively doing something wrong. It would be weird to have a "vacation from the vacation from the other threads, thread," right? :)
 


Thank you for proving my point about people just endlessly arguing. Tschüss.
Mod Note:

Gotta say, this- and the other non-English “goodbyes” being used in here- are coming off as less-than-polite in the contexts & tone of their usage.

And for good measure, rudeness does not excuse reciprocal rudeness.

As such, howzabout we all refrain from multilingual snippyness, especially those who have recently been moderated on precisely this issue. (You know who you are.)
 


You can't tell me what to do, Snarf.
No, no, no it goes like this,
youre not the boss of me GIF
 


Ah, a rare opportunity to reply to two different, mostly unrelated posts with two different quotes from one of my favorite books.
If the viewer finds that certain qualities, which are themselves objective, are what makes something beautiful, then the state of being beautiful exists regardless of whether or not it's observed. They might be the ones making that judgment, but their judgment is that such qualities exist regardless of whether or not anyone observes them.
Terry Pratchett, Hogfather:
YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.

"So we can believe the big ones?"

YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.

"They're not the same at all!"

YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET—Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.

"Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point—"
Beauty is in the same category. Just like there are no molecules of mercy, there are no wavelengths of beauty. It is created in the minds of humans (or, in theory, other sapients). It does not exist outside human judgment, and that judgment can be different for each observer. A person may find something or someone beautiful because of the feelings they have attached to that object or person, regardless of objective aesthetic qualities. In other cases, beauty can just be a matter of taste. I mean, there are people out there who don't appreciate the Hölle Rache aria, and much as I'd like to say they're objectively wrong, they're not. Beauty is in the eye (and ear) of the beholder.

I saw a t-shirt today that read, "ARTIFICAL INTELLIGENCE ISN'T."
Terry Pratchett, Hogfather:
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Not quite as deep as the other one, but still.
 

Brief reminder-

I am not the owner of this thread, and in the immortal words of Mama Snarf whenever she talked to the police, my teachers, or the raccoons in the backyard ... Can't tell me what to do!

And I certainly can't tell y'all what to do either, nor would I ever presume to.

That said, I will briefly note that while we are welcome to discuss (almost) anything and (almost) everything in this thread, please remember that EnWorld is a no-politics zone, and if you feel like you are getting close to that point, please don't!

Also also, this is supposed to be a respite from bickering- a hootenanny if you will! That doesn't mean "don't argue" but if you feel your blood getting all angry by stuff in this thread ... well, we are collectively doing something wrong. It would be weird to have a "vacation from the vacation from the other threads, thread," right? :)
I have turned back from the precipice perhaps 3 times, in the last 5 pages, from making political-adjacent remarks.
 

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