Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Ryujin]

There's always two problems with this, one more severe than the other.

The less severe: When you're exhausted or injured, even when you can continue work, its unlikely to be of the same quality. Whether that's still better than not getting it done immediately is heavily situational.

The more severe: When you're infectious, incentives to get in and work anyway are a terrible idea, but they're almost (pun unavoidable) endemic.

The concept of forcing workers to go into work when legitimately sick, via massive disincentives, is just plain dumb. It risks causing even more loss of productivity. And then you have the workers who "have a real work ethic", who refuse to stay home even when sick. They are dangerous.

One of my department's managers was the latter. For some reason he thought that the place would just fall apart without him, even though his primary management "method" was incessant meetings that decided nothing. He came in the day of our Christmas Party, which was a buffet that year. Over the next week half of the entire department (about 75 people) was out sick, followed the next week by the other half. Only one managed to make it into work the whole time and that was one of my co-workers, who was sick as a dog, and who I blame for the other half of the department being out sick the second week.

 

[MoonSong]

A stray adopted us and had a litter of murder muffins in our house. We're beyond full for cats already. Free to a good home. Should be ready to adopt around the first week of November. Too young to be fixed yet. All friendly and used to people. Some boys, some girls. Near Portland, OR.

@CleverNickName . Want a cat or three?

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Can you ship them internationally?

 

[dragoner]

If someone doesn't want to work, move them to another crew, still doesn't work out, let them go. Yeah, generally don't want people coming in sick. Spike productivity.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

The company operates on a points system - once you've used up your sick time, you start accruing points for calling out. And when you call out and don't have any sick time left, they use your PTO to cover the lost time.
So if I'd worked every day that week, I would have had more than 40 hours of regular time on the clock, which would have become overtime.
But, since I called out, I'll be getting eight hours of PTO and thirty-four(-ish) hours of regular time. Sucks to be me.

This feels like a company that's eventually going to lose a big class action suit.

 

[Thomas Shey]

The concept of forcing workers to go into work when legitimately sick, via massive disincentives, is just plain dumb. It risks causing even more loss of productivity. And then you have the workers who "have a real work ethic", who refuse to stay home even when sick. They are dangerous.

Yup. But at least in the U.S., both are stupidly common.

 

[Ryujin]

Yup. But at least in the U.S., both are stupidly common.

In Canada as well. Bad bosses are everywhere.

 

[dragoner]

Bad ones make the rest look great.

 

[gnarlygninja]

Yup. But at least in the U.S., both are stupidly common.

Add on how expensive it is to go to the doctor.

 

[RealAlHazred]

Listen, I only get 5 days off every year, whether sick days or vacation days. So, yes, I'm going to come in when I'm sick, because the alternative is that I never get to destress. Ever.

 

[Ryujin]

Listen, I only get 5 days off every year, whether sick days or vacation days. So, yes, I'm going to come in when I'm sick, because the alternative is that I never get to destress. Ever.

And it's wrong that you're put in that position.