Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[prabe]

That one escaped me, and I’m definitely an Adam’s fan.

It's a kinda tossed off line in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, a (IIRC) Classical radio station programmer gets cornered by a logician and a semantics professor who team up to prove that the phrase "too much Mozart" makes no logical sense. Or something similar. I often pair it with "not enough lawyers" when I'm riffing on it, but chose not to based on the audience, here.

 

[Velderan]

TIL this was a thing.

 

[CleverNickName]

Is there a web browser or search engine that I can use that will automatically exclude AI-generated content from search results? I hate having to search for everything multiple times, adding more exclusion tags each time, just to get reliable info. I'd even settle for a browser plug-in that blocks Google's "AI Overview" that tops every search list...it would be a good place to start, anyway.

Don't get me wrong; I'm all for giving people what they want and making peoples' lives easier. But I'm not a bored teenager looking for memes over here. I'm working. I need verifiable facts and data, not an algorithm's best guess. Having to sift real information out of an ever-growing pile of noise is really, really frustrating.

 

[Velderan]

Is there a web browser or search engine that I can use that will automatically exclude AI-generated content from search results? I hate having to search for everything multiple times, adding more exclusion tags each time, just to get reliable info. I'd even settle for a browser plug-in that blocks Google's "AI Overview" that tops every search list...it would be a good place to start, anyway.

Don't get me wrong; I'm all for giving people what they want and making peoples' lives easier. But I'm not a bored teenager looking for memes over here. I'm working. I need verifiable facts and data, not an algorithm's best guess. Having to sift real information out of an ever-growing pile of noise is really, really frustrating.

I can't speak to how safe it is to use, but this Firefox browser plugin seems to accomplish what you want. You have to grant it permissions to change data from a lot of Google domains to function, which in theory COULD mean changing things like your Gmail or whatever other Google services you use. I haven't looked into it much further than seeing the project is open source and the code is all available here. There seems to be a version for Chrome as well.

 

[prabe]

Is there a web browser or search engine that I can use that will automatically exclude AI-generated content from search results? I hate having to search for everything multiple times, adding more exclusion tags each time, just to get reliable info. I'd even settle for a browser plug-in that blocks Google's "AI Overview" that tops every search list...it would be a good place to start, anyway.

Don't get me wrong; I'm all for giving people what they want and making peoples' lives easier. But I'm not a bored teenager looking for memes over here. I'm working. I need verifiable facts and data, not an algorithm's best guess. Having to sift real information out of an ever-growing pile of noise is really, really frustrating.

DuckDuckGo allows you to turn all AI off--at least, it seems to, I haven't checked its work. Obviously, it'd just be turned off in the search results themselves, it wouldn't do anything about whatever pages you landed on.

 

[Mannahnin]

One of the things often embedded in bad faith arguments is both the assumption and the insistence that the other party share all the same basic premises you do, and unwillingness to cede any of those premises or step back and consider them first (admittedly, sometimes that gets so into the weeds its not worth it, but you can at least be honest about that and not get aggressive about insisting the other person must share those premises or they're bad people in one fashion or another. "I don't share your premise so I don't accept your conclusion" should be an acceptable phrase in a discussion).

Yup. I employed that one again yesterday. For a while on the DakkaDakka forums we had a trend going in rules debates where we'd go ahead and break out our premises and conclusions explicitly.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Yup. I employed that one again yesterday. For a while on the DakkaDakka forums we had a trend going in rules debates where we'd go ahead and break out our premises and conclusions explicitly.

At the very least, I'd expect that to make some of the "talking past each other" arguments less common.

(There's a complex argument about whether someone can participate in a discussion based on premises they don't share. I suspect how useful/productive that is turns on A) Can they avoid mischaracterizing the other set of assumptions in a hostile fashion (not by any means easy for some people) and B) Genuinely understanding why the premise is held with other people even if you don't share it. Generally, I suspect for most people it probably pays to just bail).

 

[dragoner]

DuckDuckGo allows you to turn all AI off--at least, it seems to, I haven't checked its work. Obviously, it'd just be turned off in the search results themselves, it wouldn't do anything about whatever pages you landed on.

Yes, mine doesn't give an AI overview.

 

[Scribe]

Is there a web browser or search engine that I can use that will automatically exclude AI-generated content from search results? I hate having to search for everything multiple times, adding more exclusion tags each time, just to get reliable info. I'd even settle for a browser plug-in that blocks Google's "AI Overview" that tops every search list...it would be a good place to start, anyway.

Don't get me wrong; I'm all for giving people what they want and making peoples' lives easier. But I'm not a bored teenager looking for memes over here. I'm working. I need verifiable facts and data, not an algorithm's best guess. Having to sift real information out of an ever-growing pile of noise is really, really frustrating.

The 'slop' issue is going to take some time to address.

 

[prabe]

The 'slop' issue is going to take some time to address.

It'll probably take some time for the Powers That Be to figure out that AI is not the tool to address it.