[Planescape] Squaring the Circle Redux - IC

"Change? Not likely, or at least not willingly. We are what we are -- Blade, did you really change in spite of your own nature and plane of origin or did your own nature emerge? The powers have a plan -- would you think that they'd let us willingly change ourselves at whimsy to go trouncing through the planes and fuddling their plans? No. If an leopard changes his spots, then perhaps he wasn't spotted to begin with. Change is only an illusion. Mostly, I think, people who assume they've 'changed' are really only finding out that they're really what they always were."
 

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Sephiroth no Miko said:
The first time, Flaust attempted to simply drag it, but the tub proved too wide to fit through the door. Then she got the bright idea to turn it on its side and roll it, which it did quite well... out the door, into the hall, and down the stairs to the second floor with a spectacular racket. This also had the side benefit of bringing one of the staff running... they'd be sure to know where she could get some water!

A brawny bariaur comes hoofing up the stairs shouting "Oy! (snort) What in the Nine sodding Hells is goin--" Upon spotting Flaust shoving the slightly dented tub into her room (well, one of the rooms the party rented anyway), he draws up short. "What are ya doing, berk?" he asks with a sigh, as if the answer's not already perfectly obvious.


Peering from behind the door, the little tiefling raises her eyebrow at the Bariaur. Now I'm sure you ain't addled, cutter. Carn't you see I'm needin' a baff? Fetch me some water would'ya - I'm fearin' I'll stink up the whole place at this rate! And with that, she bats her eyelids at the man and waits to see if he'll comply.
 

Zoe Windwalker

“That's where the philosophy begins,” Zoe says to Vlad. “I'm afraid, but I doubt we will ever find out, whether this is true or not. It's an interesting thought, nonetheless. However, I prefer to think of myself as a person of free will. Sure, there are always some events, which are quite a bit too convenient to be coincidence, but you never know for sure.”
 

Zoe Windwalker

“Speaking of change, do we have enough to buy another round of wine? All this talking makes my throat dry out.”
 

"Of course you do. No one wants to think of themselves as nothing more than a stuffed tiger dancing on wires. As for change, I think I ought to be able to cover another round."
 

deadestdai said:
Peering from behind the door, the little tiefling raises her eyebrow at the Bariaur. Now I'm sure you ain't addled, cutter. Carn't you see I'm needin' a baff? Fetch me some water would'ya - I'm fearin' I'll stink up the whole place at this rate! And with that, she bats her eyelids at the man and waits to see if he'll comply.
The bariaur merely rolls his eyes. "Haven't ya ever heard (snort) of actually asking one 'o the help for assistance?" He waves an arm peevishly. "Never mind... (snort) Logic's about as obvious to one 'o you barmies as light is to a deafened canoloth. (snort) I'll go get yer water... just don't drop that tub down any more steps, eh? (snort) That's our last one." With that, he turns around and clops back downstairs, grumbling something about addle-coves and their lack of impulse control.

He is, however, as good as his word and in a few moments, several buckets of hot water are brought up for Flaust's bath, along with a ball of soap and some fluffy towels.
 

The Xaositect points at Zoe, Blade, Vladimir, and Kiaros enthusiastically. "See! They agree! Anything change can motivation with proper! Even will without but, is inevitable change!" In his excitement, he lapses into a bit of scramblespeak; fortunately, it is brief.

"Uh, but that basher didn't agree with you," points out another Guvner, this one dressed in neat robes of sky blue and white, as he gestures towards Vladimir. "He just said that people remain the same and it's only their perception of themselves that change."

"Well, of course!" the Xaositect agrees cheerfully, in a calmer tone. "It's second Guild." (He's referring to the day of the week.)

The woman in armor turns to regard Kiaros curiously. "Then you are saying that given enough time, even the Great Wheel can turn around?" She shakes her head. "No, I don't believe that. While some change is natural and inevitable, there is an underlying basic nature that cannot be altered." She jerks her chin towards Blade. "Were you like the rest of your brethren on Acheron once? Or had you always felt somewhat out of place there?"
 

Sephiroth no Miko said:
The woman in armor turns to regard Kiaros curiously. "Then you are saying that given enough time, even the Great Wheel can turn around?" She shakes her head. "No, I don't believe that. While some change is natural and inevitable, there is an underlying basic nature that cannot be altered."

Kiaros leans forwards slightly, fully drawn into the discussion.
"Perhaps there is some underlying fundamental law that does not allow itself to be broken, something even beyond the ken of the greatest of the Powers, but if there is I obviously don't know about it." He smiles disarmingly and continues. "There are some philosophers who believe that the Great Wheel has turned upside-down and inside-out a number of times even in our life-time, but that some powerful and primal Law or Power has re-written the memories and perceptions of all beings in existance to make us believe that the past was ever the same as the present in all its major aspects. -And many more who believe such talk is the height of barmy. But we can't know for sure, can we? There is enough magical power in the Multiverse that we can naver be sure that what our senses tell us is the truth."
 

"I grew up a mercenary, and for a while I was content to be so. It was only in my later years that I felt something was lacking. But I may have gone on content for years, until I met a paladin of Heironeous," Blade says evenly.

Don't you remember what Jasune told you? Never get involved in a Faction discussion, you'll be there for days! Blade berates herself mentally.
 

Vlad shakes his head at Kiaros's description of the Great Wheel inverting. "Maybe it has, but don't you think that the colossal memory wipe is a bit much to stomach? Simplest answer, lad -- these philosophers you're speaking of seem to be all ass over teakettle. The Wheel's always been the way it is now. Everything can't be relative."
 

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