[Planescape] Squaring the Circle Redux - OOC (Full)

[Thanee]

Nah, I was just looking at from start (half-celestial being more like an alternate idea, than an addition), only thing I'm saying is, that if the mount is weaker than one he could get without Leadership, then something isn't right.

If you have that covered, than everything is fine.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

So yes, by the rules, cohort mounts are weakers than special mounts, at least from a numbers standpoint.

And rightly so, but cohort special mounts should at least be slightly better than special mounts.

Why can't they simply use the same system for all of that stuff, but need to figure CR here ECL there...

Bye
Thanee

 

[Sephiroth no Miko]

Ehh, sorry, didn't mean to sound terribly defensive but this whole cohort-special mount thing is... problematic.

I think the half-celestial template is a perfect example of what's wrong with it. It's +1 or +2 CR, but it's a +4 LA. By DMG rules, a 10th level paladin could have something like a half-celestial griffon because it's CR 6, but that thing would be something like ECL 14, if one were to play it as a PC or as an NPC. There's a 8(!!) numbers difference between the CR and ECL in that case.

And that's just really messed up. I think a half-celestial griffon may be too buff for a 10th level paladin (especially considering the all other bonuses it gets on top of that), but would probably be too weak in a party of 14th level characters. (On the other hand, I suppose having a 14th-level character's worth of equipment and elite stats help.) I dunno.... *throws up hands*

 

[Thanee]

What I said... CR/ECL.

I'd probably just make a special mount and then add something worth like 2 CR/ECL for the feat, or simply have Ferrix drop Leadership, pick another feat and make it a special mount without the hassle.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Sephiroth no Miko]

Oh well, what's done is done. We've got something worked out, anyway....

 

[Sephiroth no Miko]

Okay, Ferrix, how does this look?

Grizzle; Medium Magical Beast [Augmented]; HD 6d8+2d10+24 (62 hp); Init +2; Speed 50 feet; AC 28 (+2 Dex, +10 natural, +6 armor), flatfooted 26, touch 12; BAB +6, Grapple +11; Atk +12/+7 melee (1d6+7, critical x2, bite); SA Trip (as wolf); SQ empathic link, improved evasion, improved speed, low-light vision, scent, share spells, share saving throws; SV Fort +14, Ref +8, Will +7; Str 20, Dex 14, Con 17, Int 7, Wis 14, Cha 6. Skills and Feats: Jump +12, Listen +8, Spot +8, Swim +7, Survival +2 (+5 when tracking by scent); Alertness, Blind Fight, Dodge, Mobility, Weapon Focus (bite), Track.

Carrying capacity: A light load for Grizzle is up to 200 pounds; a medium load 201-400 pounds; and a heavy load, 401-600 pounds. He can drag 3,000 lbs.

Possessions: +2 mithral chain shirt barding (5,200 gp), collar of adaptation (9,000 gp), halter of resistance +1 (1,000 gp), 4 potions of magic fang (200 gp), 2 potions of cure moderate wounds (600 gp).

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Notes: I used the elite array for his base stats (15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8) using the racial ability modifiers I had in the earlier post. I tried to keep as close as I could to what I could remember of the original Grizzle.

By the way, for Aegis and Tor, you cannot switch Track for Toughness because Track is a bonus racial feat. You can, if you wish, switch Alertness for Toughness instead.

 

[Thanee]

Then she got the bright idea to turn it on its side and roll it, which it did quite well... out the door, into the hall, and down the stairs to the second floor with a spectacular racket. This also had the side benefit of bringing one of the staff running... they'd be sure to know where she could get some water!

That part is just great!

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

Vacation

I'll be on vacation for about two weeks. Don't wait on me, Zoe will just relax, dance, drink, socialize, tag along, whatever seems reasonable for so long.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Sephiroth no Miko]

Have fun on your vacation!

I'll just have Zoe in the background though I don't think the tavern scene is really going to be much longer... certainly not for the next two weeks anyhow.

 

[Thanee]

Will do!

If needed, just use her spells for healing (Vigor, extended Vigor, Heal) and let her stay in the back otherwise. Considering, that she is the primary healer in the group, that might be needed, if there are some unpleasant happenings ahead.

Bye
Thanee