D&D General Playstyle vs Mechanics

[Micah Sweet]

Hang on though. If I know you Oofta, D&D is also your second favourite RPG, right? As well as your first? Like, a different edition maybe.

very important point. "D&D" is hardly one game.

 

[TwoSix]

Your point of view, obviously. I don't see his comments that way. The 5e ruleset, for me, is no higher than #3, but I still play it a lot because of the ruleset's base popularity and because I can fiddle with it to make it more what I want.

5e doesn't make my top 5 even when I limit it to "games that are like D&D." And it's my second favorite edition!

 

[tetrasodium]

I can discuss mechanics and play styles with folks I dont agree with. I dont need to be right.

Is telling someone that their play style is the wrong fit for a system in order to avoid discussing the merits of why they feel a given mechanic is bad really discussing mechanics?

 

[Micah Sweet]

To be fair I've been playing the same D&D campaign since 1990, with the same GM, and the other players started in it around 2000 witth the latest addition 2008. We've played through 2e, 2.5, 3e, 3.5, 4e, and 5e. Whichever one was currently in print was always seen by the others as the best one, and then was criticised only after it had been replaced.

Basically D&D editions are like monarchs.

EDIT: And while I'm more 'other RPG-curious' than the rest of my group, they've all played other games including some indie/nontrad stuff

Understandable, but a little unfortunate in my view. I played every edition after 1e but ultimately went back to it from 2e, 3e, and 4e. By 5e the group composition had changed and more people preferred the new stuff, but my favorites remained BECMI, B/X, and our 1e core/2e supplemented hybrid (later expanded to include several OSR games).

 

[soviet]

Personally I don't mind 5e (and continue to play it) but I prefer 4e or any TSR edition.

 

[Oofta]

I would wonder actually how many people with good grounding in at least a few other RPGs (of any sort) would still rate D&D 5e/5.5 as their #1 favorite, based on any metric other than its general popularity.

You can speculate all you want, but it sure sounds like the same old same old. Telling people we just don't know any better, that we only stick with D&D because of ignorance.

 

[soviet]

My favourite game is Other Worlds but the author is a known self-publicist

 

[Oofta]

Your point of view, obviously. I don't see his comments that way. The 5e ruleset, for me, is no higher than #3, but I still play it a lot because of the ruleset's base popularity and because I can fiddle with it to make it more what I want.

For some people it's not their favorite game. That's far different from what is being claimed. Repeatedly.

 

[TwoSix]

Is telling someone that their play style is the wrong fit for a system in order to avoid discussing the merits of why they feel a given mechanic is bad really discussing mechanics?

Depends.

If it's a discussion on 5e Stealth, probably not a playstyle issue.

If it's a discussion on 4e "Come and Get It", it's almost certainly a playstyle issue.

 

[TwoSix]

You can speculate all you want, but it sure sounds like the same old same old. Telling people we just don't know any better, that we only stick with D&D because of ignorance.

Lots of people, I would personally think the majority of the player base, stick with 5e out of a combination of ignorance and the weight of the network effects.

That doesn't mean everyone, and not you personally.