On the verge of shirking your moderator role here, Henry, fun as the thread is. Limbo was made logically unnecessary with the doctrine of implicit faith adopted at Vatican II but because both Benedict and John Paul II were anti-Vatican II, they're doing a cosmological rewrite ignoring its conclusions.Henry said:Don't forget about the St. Peter thing: "Whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven," and all that. Check out the Kevin Smith movie Dogma for a more whimsical take on the idea - a cardinal inadvertantly almost undoes all of existance in an extension of this.
But that's as far into religious discussion as I'm going to go...![]()
This thread really does serve to remind us of the glorious logical incoherence of the Gygaxian Great Wheel. The other outer planes are similarly horrible manglings of someone's idea of the afterlife.
The pope should really consider adopting the Aztec belief that the second level of heaven is occupied by a giant breast-covered tree at which infants who die before weaning suckle for the rest of time.