PotC: Dead Man's Chest spoiler thread

[RangerWickett]

After Elizabeth locks him to the mast I was sure Jack was going to have to cut his hand off to get free, neccesitating... a hook.

Me too!

I loved the voodoo woman's accent. She spea ksli kthe wor dsen din a differen tpla sthan they actually do. I want to practice that accent.

My only problem was the guy who tried to tell Will where the Black Pearl was during that one 'searching montage.' His accent was very thick.

 

[Banshee16]

To quote Captain Jack - hum, pirate.

Right....pirate...evil...check.

In the first movie, I liked Jack....in this one, although I like him because he's funny, from a moral standpoint, I find him reprehensible, and the "justified outrage" part of me wants him to get what's coming to him.

Turning over innocents to the devil to save his own skin.....quite despicable and utterly criminal.

He's a pirate, and the movie's about pirates so he's a protagonist.....but in this movie he seemed more like the villain than he did in the first movie. Then, he was more of a rascal than anything.

The whole giving up innocents thing turned me against him in this movie.

Of course someone will point out he was willing to trade Will in the first movie....but that wasn't trading in souls....and it was one guy, and it was more obvious that it was part of a larger plan, and at least to me, I didn't really think he was going to actually do it. This time around, it felt more like Jack actually *would* follow through.

Banshee

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

...Voodoo Chick to be completely unacceptable.

Phoey on you. You want them to eat the dog and dislike Tia Dalma (aka Voodoo Chick). Phoey on you I say!

I understood every word she said and I thought she was Dead Sexy, much sexier than Miss Swann (aside from her teeth).

I believe they will explain - in the next movie - why Barbosa is alive again and what Lord Beckett (sp?) is doing and oh Lordy do I every hope we get some more Tia and her Jamacian + Cajun x 2 = accent.

By the by, Tia Dalma was performed by Naomie Harris, mosted noted for her performance of Selena in 28 Days Later and will be appearing in Miami Vice (the film to be released later this summer) and as such is the only possible thing that could get me to see that movie.

(One of Grumpy's many weaknesses is an attraction to women who can hurt him.)

I thought the cannibal island section went on too long and wondered why everyone seemed so set on getting Jack back (given everything he did), but the movie was a lot of fun.

 

[mmu1]

Of course someone will point out he was willing to trade Will in the first movie....but that wasn't trading in souls....and it was one guy, and it was more obvious that it was part of a larger plan, and at least to me, I didn't really think he was going to actually do it. This time around, it felt more like Jack actually *would* follow through.

Hmm... To me, it didn't really feel like he'd go through with it this time, either. He promised Davey Jones something outlandish that he knew he almost certainly wasn't going to be able to deliver, and then - instead of, say, rounding up the population of some small settlement, women, children and all - he made a spectacularly half-hearted attempt at filling his quota with pirate-wannabe scum.

Also, I think you're reading too much into the whole "soul" business - he wasn't, I think, selling souls per se, just delivering a 100 unlucky bastards to serve the "100 years before the mast", not their souls into hell. And at the very least, they'd get the same choice as the guy with the rosary did.

 

[Darthjaye]

I understood every word she said and I thought she was Dead Sexy, much sexier than Miss Swann (aside from her teeth).

I believe they will explain - in the next movie - why Barbosa is alive again

Gotta agree on the Miss Swann not being so sexy. Not sure what it is, but aside from the fact that she needs something more than skin and bones (which in ercent interviews and photos as well makes her look fairly sickly and unattractive) she also has this thing she does with her jaw that (I'm not sure if anyone else notices it either) but makes her look likes she's grating her teeth even when she talks. Don't get me wrong, she's cute, but I'm not gonna agree with anyone who says sexy.

As for the Barbosa thing, in an interview they let it slip that they'd explain his ressurection by Tia in the next film. My guess, like a few others by now, is that Tia used the monkey and the pair of boots we see in the background in an earlier scene on their visit to her, to cast a spell and bring back our dearly departed Captain. I'm also in agreement that she may well be the love of Davey's life we've heard about.

 

[Darthjaye]

Hmm... To me, it didn't really feel like he'd go through with it this time, either. He promised Davey Jones something outlandish that he knew he almost certainly wasn't going to be able to deliver, and then - instead of, say, rounding up the population of some small settlement, women, children and all - he made a spectacularly half-hearted attempt at filling his quota with pirate-wannabe scum.

Also, I think you're reading too much into the whole "soul" business - he wasn't, I think, selling souls per se, just delivering a 100 unlucky bastards to serve the "100 years before the mast", not their souls into hell. And at the very least, they'd get the same choice as the guy with the rosary did.

Agreed, he did go out of his way to get the scum of the earth to deliver to Davey. And they had an option to chose to die rather than go into servitude on his crew. This doesn't make Sparrow a hero, but does at least make him maybe Chaotic Nuetral in D&D terms. He does a little good here, and little bad there and it all balances out.

He wasn't a wanted man in the first movie cause he was a lovable swashbuckler and I think people forget that he was hated by a lot of people and still is. He does what he does to survive. Heck, he's swayed Swann into making a decision she hated and becomming something she thought she wasn't, he's made the Commodore a truely unrespectable man, and made Will a hunted man. Chaotic Nuetral I say!!

 

[Bront]

Anyone else see the Dog as the leader of the tribespeople after the credits?

Doh! And I didn't stay

I may have to go again just for that.

 

[DonTadow]

I personally dont think he was trying to round up 'scum" per say, I think that thats the only port he pretty much can get the black pearl into without any ruckus.

Sad thing is, in hindsight, I see the PCs in my game doing this if something important depended on it. And they "claim" their a good party.

 

[Henry]

Turning over innocents to the devil to save his own skin.....quite despicable and utterly criminal.

Bah! A trifle, indeed. 'e would've had his freedom in a hundred years or so, mate!


Still, if we're talking D&D alignments, more Chaotic Neutral than Chaotic Evil (as one poster said), because to me evil alignment implies a preference to harm others for its own sake; Jack usually does things to save his own skin, and neutral is typified by strong self-interest.

 

[Arnwyn]

Phoey on you. You want them to eat the dog and dislike Tia Dalma (aka Voodoo Chick). Phoey on you I say!

I understood every word she said

Heh. I've already predicted you, and pre-dismissed you (and RangerWickett as well):

(Yes, I know some of you will respond and babble "Well, I understood her just fine." Whatever - I don't care. I have enough data points pointing to it being a problem.)

and I thought she was Dead Sexy,

Irrelevant, of course, when important story elements are (barely) coming out of her mouth.

and oh Lordy do I every hope we get some more Tia and her Jamacian + Cajun x 2 = accent.

Me too, as long as she's garbling unimportant stuff.