Don't forget the fear and 'oh my god' momnets when the trailers and hints of Depp's Captain Jack started to come out in the first one. The teeth, the dress, the talk, oh my.ThirdWizard said:
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PotC: Dead Man's Chest spoiler thread
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Quasqueton
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I’ve seen others make a similar statement on Jack’s alignment. Jack is not Good at all. At *best*, he’s Chaotic Neutral.
Funny how everyone overlooks his willingness to turn over 100 souls (including Will Turner) to save his own. One hundred souls, to the devil! And look at the first four he managed to get – none of them bad people (as in evil).
It’s amazing how much we’re willing to overlook the darkness in someone because we like them.
I loved the movie, and thoroughly enjoy Jack Sparrow – but I definitely recognize that he is *not* a good guy, by any stretch of the imagination.
Quasqueton
To quote Captain Jack - hum, pirate.Quasqueton said:
John Q. Mayhem
Explorer
Jack's a great example of how a Chaotic Evil person can fit into a more normal adventuring party.
I really liked this movie, expecially the end. I loved the "I like to wave at them as they pass by."
One thing, though...I can't remember if the Kraken sinks the Black Pearl or just eats Jack and leaves.
The CE thing's mostly a joke. I think Jack's actually CN with evil and good tendencies warring within. He's tugging towards Good in PotC 1, Evil in PotC 2).
I really liked this movie, expecially the end. I loved the "I like to wave at them as they pass by."
One thing, though...I can't remember if the Kraken sinks the Black Pearl or just eats Jack and leaves.
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Arnwyn
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I found this movie to be quite enjoyable. Lots of great moments, and great dialogue.
There were definitely some problems: the story was a little messy, it ran a little longer than necessary, and (one of the more heinous sins, IMO) was that some of the more important story elements were told by people who were almost completely incomprehensible. I could understand Davey Jones mostly (though he had some garbled speech) but I found that Voodoo Chick to be completely unacceptable. She was supposedly telling an interesting story, but I needed frickin' subtitles to understand her. Very unfortunate. (Yes, I know some of you will respond and babble "Well, I understood her just fine." Whatever - I don't care. I have enough data points pointing to it being a problem.)
Otherwise, the movie was fantastic. I missed the monkey stealing the gold at the end of the credits (even on a repeated DVD viewing), so I was confused about that, but I'm glad it's been cleared up for me - that aspect made the movie even better. (And I'm glad I stayed to the end of the credits of this one, even though I hoped the dog was eaten.)
I was particularly impressed with the number of recurring characters, which is always something I enjoy. The return of Norrington (especially in his more grizzled state) was especially cool.
I was confused for a second about Barbossa returning ("wasn't he shot dead?!"), but thankfully my translator (read: wife) understood what Incomprehensible Voodoo Chick was saying, so I'm glad for that. Barbossa indeed did die, and seemingly went to "Land's End" which seems to be sort of like the 'land of the dead'. He returned, and thus is now alive. The heroes propose to do the same with Jack - and need Barbossa because "he knows those waters" - since he came from there already.
Thanks a bunch, Incomprehensible Voodoo Chick.
My favorite scenes were the whole cannibal sequence (nothing ever beats a giant pirate-filled ball rolling down the hill) and the three-way combat at the church/mill. The action sequences were simply stunning in this movie, with brilliant cinematography and camera angles. Brilliant, I say!
There were definitely some problems: the story was a little messy, it ran a little longer than necessary, and (one of the more heinous sins, IMO) was that some of the more important story elements were told by people who were almost completely incomprehensible. I could understand Davey Jones mostly (though he had some garbled speech) but I found that Voodoo Chick to be completely unacceptable. She was supposedly telling an interesting story, but I needed frickin' subtitles to understand her. Very unfortunate. (Yes, I know some of you will respond and babble "Well, I understood her just fine." Whatever - I don't care. I have enough data points pointing to it being a problem.)
Otherwise, the movie was fantastic. I missed the monkey stealing the gold at the end of the credits (even on a repeated DVD viewing), so I was confused about that, but I'm glad it's been cleared up for me - that aspect made the movie even better. (And I'm glad I stayed to the end of the credits of this one, even though I hoped the dog was eaten.)
I was particularly impressed with the number of recurring characters, which is always something I enjoy. The return of Norrington (especially in his more grizzled state) was especially cool.
I was confused for a second about Barbossa returning ("wasn't he shot dead?!"), but thankfully my translator (read: wife) understood what Incomprehensible Voodoo Chick was saying, so I'm glad for that. Barbossa indeed did die, and seemingly went to "Land's End" which seems to be sort of like the 'land of the dead'. He returned, and thus is now alive. The heroes propose to do the same with Jack - and need Barbossa because "he knows those waters" - since he came from there already.
Thanks a bunch, Incomprehensible Voodoo Chick.
My favorite scenes were the whole cannibal sequence (nothing ever beats a giant pirate-filled ball rolling down the hill) and the three-way combat at the church/mill. The action sequences were simply stunning in this movie, with brilliant cinematography and camera angles. Brilliant, I say!
WayneLigon
Adventurer
After Elizabeth locks him to the mast I was sure Jack was going to have to cut his hand off to get free, neccesitating... a hook. 
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