PotC: Dead Man's Chest spoiler thread

[Banshee16]

Well, you can't really say the public agrees until the second weekend, can you? It is then that you see whether the film has any legs. The opening weekend is pretty much an indication of how much the first film was loved, because there isn't the time for word of mouth to get around about whether it is a stinker or fab movie at that point

< thinks >
mulls over a number of high profile films he's been to see on the opening weekend based upon how good a previous film was, only to be disappointed. Matrix sequels I'm looking at you.
< /thinks >

That's a valid point. However, I'm not positive that it will happen here. I went with a group of 6 people, ranging from fans of the genre to people just looking for a fun film, and all around everyone was speaking very positively when they left. My fiance commented that she thinks she liked the first one better, but she still liked this one. She just wasn't sure if she liked the first one more because it was brand new, or something else.

Throughout the theatre, energy seemed to be pretty high leaving.....didn't hear any griping.

It doesn't have a super plot like some other movies, but for what it is, a fun, romping swashbuckler, I think it did the job pretty well. There were a few points looking around that I saw people wiping tears out of their eyes from laughing so hard, like with when they were trapped in those cages on cannibal island, etc.

I guess we'll see.....I just think sometimes that critics seem to enjoy trashing popular films, then telling us we should like some other film that actually puts many people to sleep. Maybe that's why I'm not an art critic. I don't really think the movies are an appropriate place to be educated anyways, so I go to be entertained.

Banshee

 

[sniffles]

Kiera Knightly wanted to kiss Johnny Depp. So much so, in fact, that it was in her contract. I suspect that is the real reason that Elizabeth kissed Jack. Hopefully, that's as far as she and Jack go. She doesn't have to wind up with Will, but please don't let her wind up with Jack.

I think it's also the classic "nice girls like bad boys" cliche. Not a train of thought I've ever really understood, but evidently a lot of other women do feel that way.

 

[Man in the Funny Hat]

I will likely see it again - there's too much in there that threatens to be overlooked otherwise. I must agree with others about the plot. It was hopelessly talky in comparison to the first and seemed rather directionless - like it was largely just necessary filler; an extended exposition for next years conclusion rather than a movie trying to stand on its own merits. As a result it felt much too long for me and thus in turn the pacing was jarringly inconsistent.

The decision to go the darker, "Empire Strikes Back" route is a bold one. It mostly works. It may work even better when it can finally be combined as but one part of a trilogy because sadly it DIDN'T stand as well on its own as I would have hoped. But it was still good.

 

[Banshee16]

I think it's also the classic "nice girls like bad boys" cliche. Not a train of thought I've ever really understood, but evidently a lot of other women do feel that way.

Bad boys are like a make work project..

Banshee

 

[WayneLigon]

I liked it a lot, and everyone else in the theater seemed to as well. I went tonight (a Monday) at 5:00 and the theater was packed. They'd sold out of the next two showings, in fact, as people were getting tickets early and then going for dinner. The whole theater clapped when Barbarosa showed up; nobody had really been 'spoiled' apparently, so he came as a total surpise.

The theater must have been running behind or something because they cut it off right at the first credit. Was there anything after the end of the credits, like in the first movie?

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Great fun ... even with some pacing issues and a plot with a few too many tentacles.

One thing I'm taking away from this one: every D&D campaign needs an undead monkey.

 

[TheAuldGrump]

I would be amused if he found a spectacled skeleton and a wooden puppet in there. The chance to a Pinocchio reference is a big reason why I suspected Jack's going to enjoy a Jonah-esque ordeal.

So anyone else think Tia Dalma is the real problem? Those teeth look like they have a century worth of decay on them...

My assumption was that like Bloody Mary she chewed Betel nuts, or a similar substance. Her teeth were not decayed, but rather stained. (As evidenced by similar stains around her lips.)

And if by her being the real problem, I assume you mean that she

Spoiler

was the love that Davey Jones lost his heart to

?

The Auld Grump

 

[RigaMortus2]

I wasn't too pleased with PotC2. The first one was a lot better IMHO.

I don't like the way it started off. Unless I missed it, they never explained what that place was that Jack escaped from in the very beginning (a prison of some sort)? Or why he was there. Obviously to get a drawing of a key, but why did he go there to get it?

I also don't like how Will and Elizabeth got arrested. Seemed like they put that in there just for conflict purposes. They were charged with helping Jack escape in the 1st movie. Now obviously if that was such a crime, they would have known about it and not hung around. Did anyone else think that Will (and maybe Elizabeth) would become pirates along with Jack at the end of the 1st movie? Sorta like Will embracing his heritage. I thought for sure it would start out with Will and Jack pirating together...

Other complaints... Jack was basically evil. At the end of Pirates1, he seemed to have redeemed himself. Now, since it is a new movie, they have to make him bad again, so he can once again redeem himself. Seemed sort of contrived.

I kept thinking of the animated Sinbad movie (the one with Brad Pitt and Catherine Zeta Jones). It reminded me a lot like that. Sinbad was a scroundrel, Jack was a scroundrel. Sinbad redeemed himself, Jack would eventually redeem himself.

I thought the mosters looked really fake. The undead pirates in the first movie looked a lot cooler. The close up shots of Davey Jones and his crew were actually pretty good, but it was the shots where there were a lot of CGI characters on the screen at once, or the shots from farther away which looked fake to me.

I also thought the action sequences weren't as abundant. The mill wheel scene, them fighting off the kraken, and the fight on the beech were all good, but not really spectacular. But most of all, I wanted more. They were probably saving it for Pirates3.

I did like how they brought back most of the characters from the first one. Even the minor characters you didn't think you'd ever see again. The two comic relief pirates were great, and I almost forgot about Norrington until they reintroduced him.

Ever since the Matrix sequels, I haven't been a fan of unresolved plots. I agree with the previous poster who said they didn't want to see Pirates 2a and Pirates 2b. They should have made 2 and 3 their own seperate movies with their own seperate plots and resolutions. Oh well... Blame that one on Matrix

That was pretty much it. All in all I thought it was okay. Not as good as the first. I will probably see it again when my friend goes, just incase there were things I missed.

 

[paradox42]

The theater must have been running behind or something because they cut it off right at the first credit. Was there anything after the end of the credits, like in the first movie?

Yes. I think it was mentioned on page 1 of this thread, but at the very end of the credits for this movie you see the dog on the cannibal island made up like Jack and sitting in the chief's throne. Just a cute apparently throwaway scene like the monkey stealing the coin, but it could potentially mean something for movie 3.

 

[KenM]

I wasn't too pleased with PotC2. The first one was a lot better IMHO.

I don't like the way it started off. Unless I missed it, they never explained what that place was that Jack escaped from in the very beginning (a prison of some sort)? Or why he was there. Obviously to get a drawing of a key, but why did he go there to get it?

He went there to get a drawering of the key because he probibly knew his time was drawing short with Davey Jones. So he wanted to try and so something to break his agreement with Davey ASAP.