PotC: Dead Man's Chest spoiler thread

Banshee16 said:
1-Why were the guy with the eyball that falls out and his buddy in the crew? They were the enemy, even at the end of the last film..

I wouldn't be surprised if Jack just didn't quite remember who they were. The others didn't really have a chance to say, "these guys have to go" -- when Will comes on the scene, they've barely got enough men to sail the Pearl, and there certainly wasn't time to stop & fight with them, if they were going to avoid the cannibal lunch special. After that, well, they weren't quite acting as enemies -- and they took the Commodore on.

2-Why was Elizabeth willing to go after Jack at the end of the movie?

My money's on guilt. Betraying him was tearing her up. I don't think she realized beforehand that she liked him as much as she did, or that she would feel so guilty about sacrificing him.

So, are Davy Jones and his crew aberrations or undead?

Undead (Augmented Aberrations), maybe? ;)

Wait, no, they're (Augmented Humanoids), aren't they? Hmm.
 

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I enjoyed it, but not as much as the first one. It felt like they were trying too hard to top the first one. When I watched the first one, I was blown away at how everything just seemed to flow naturally together, even Depp's crazy over-the-top performance. This one felt like they were trying too hard. Good, but not great. I probably won't go see it a second time in the theater, but will wait for DVD.
 

Banshee16 said:
1-Why were the guy with the eyball that falls out and his buddy in the crew? They were the enemy, even at the end of the last film..

I suspect it had a little to do with the fact that, when they first showed up, they needed them to help pilot the ship- I don't recall whether or not they had the requisite 6 men the potentially mutinous crewman mentioned during the escape from the cannibals.

After that- why not? It's not as if Jack seemed particularly concerned about the makeup of his crew during the movie. As long as their interests seemed in line with everyone else's, they weren't really a problem.

2-Why was Elizabeth willing to go after Jack at the end of the movie? She saw earlier in the movie that he's willing to sell out his friends to save himself....he's not exactly a "good man". So why act like he was at the end?

As coyote6 points out, I suspect it was guilt over what she did to him on the Black Pearl. Similarly, I suspect Will's willingness to go along had more to do with him feeling as if he were doing it for Elizabeth rather than for Jack (who he, I think, finally realizes is really a scumbag. Honestly, I still can't quite figure out why they stuck up for him in the end of the first film. I've just never found Jack Sparrow all that charming- and he was even less charming in this movie, where he was way too campy.)

3-Will.....has he, or has he not traded away his soul? He seemed to lose it in the bet, but then he escaped. Is he cursed now?

He didn't lose to Davy Jones- his father did, when he upped the ante at the end and tried to bluff Davy Jones. Davy himself tells Will that he's free to go- the next time they hit land.

(Also, I'm not quite sure if I caught it or not, but if Bootstrap hadn't raised the ante- there were 8 5's there, right? So Will would have won?)

Was Jack having a hero moment at the end? He really was just doing one of the only things he had left as a choice. He wasn't exactly in a position where he could get away.

He could have gone back to the island and found Norrington (if he had surmised that Norrington was the one who had stolen the heart) and then been able to bargain his way out of the deal with Jones, possibly. Although I have to agree, it didn't really seem all that heroic, frankly.

I am just wondering how Norrington thought he could possibly get away when he ran off with the heart. I mean, obviously, somehow a passing EIC ship found him, but it seems like quite a chance to take- that island seemed awful remote.
 


Banshee16 said:
2-Why was Elizabeth willing to go after Jack at the end of the movie? She saw earlier in the movie that he's willing to sell out his friends to save himself....he's not exactly a "good man". So why act like he was at the end?

When they are on the island, looking for the treasure chest, there is a moment where it seems as if Elizabeth is looking at the 'hearts desire' compass, and finds that it is pointing at Jack... just before she slumps down and says "it isn't working!"

I wondered whether that meant that she was actually developing an attraction for the bad boy of the seven seas.
 

Banshee16 said:
Awesome movie...I was concerned after hearing some of the reviews, and seeing the rating dropping at Rotten Tomatoes, but I think it was a far better movie than the critics are giving it credit for.

Apparently the public agrees, as the movie has blown several records out of the water with respect to take over one weekend, from what I understand.

Well, you can't really say the public agrees until the second weekend, can you? It is then that you see whether the film has any legs. The opening weekend is pretty much an indication of how much the first film was loved, because there isn't the time for word of mouth to get around about whether it is a stinker or fab movie at that point

< thinks >
mulls over a number of high profile films he's been to see on the opening weekend based upon how good a previous film was, only to be disappointed. Matrix sequels I'm looking at you.
< /thinks >
 


Plane Sailing said:
I wondered whether that meant that she was actually developing an attraction for the bad boy of the seven seas.

[blink] It never occurred to me that it might mean anything else.

Her 'heart's desire' was wavering between Will and Jack through the course of the movie.

-Hyp.
 

Hypersmurf said:
[blink] It never occurred to me that it might mean anything else.

Her 'heart's desire' was wavering between Will and Jack through the course of the movie.

Blech. The best way for the third movie to absolutely ruin the trilogy would be to have Elizabeth wind up with Jack.
 


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