Prestige Classes that are "super" versions of normal classes

[Gestalt]

A slight hijack: The last paragraph of Exalted Rage states an Exalted Rager can do subdual damage, stop attacking, and tell friend from foe. Does that actually add any new abilities to a Barbarian? I thought they could do all that anyway.

 

[Solarious]

Because when a Frenzied Berzerker is Frenzied, he/she must continue fighting until nothing standing is left. Exalted Rage allegedly allows the Berzerker to just smash stuff instead of killing party members, or at least just bruse them badly.

Personally, it doesn't float. Then again, I don't like the Book of Exalted Deeds, so pfft!

 

[ruleslawyer]

For those of you who care only if something is right by RAW, this combo doesn't work. I can't dispute that. However, I for one don't give a flying... um... pie.

As all of the Rage-based feats in the CW mention that they work with Frenzy... I've always assumed that Rage-based feats from other sources did too. Perhaps this would be a "House Rule". Just another case of RAW kicking the spirit of the law in the teeth.

RAW is a crutch. Period.

See IcyCool's post above. I like going with the spirit rather than the letter of the law too... except when it creates an unbalanced situation. THe point is that adherence to the letter of the law in this case keeps the FB balanced, and ignoring the letter of the law throws its balance out of whack.

 

[Evar Nettlespar]

Until the Frenzied Berserker kills his party.

Hehe, true, that. We were spoiled by having a bard in the party with the handy Calm Emotions.

 

[victorysaber]

Any "super" prestige class for the wilder and sorcerer? And mystic (spontaneous cleric from Dragonlance) and soulknife would be good too... technically yes any full spellcasting prestige class would make a sorcerer a "super" one, but I was looking for one that enhances the whole spontaneous casting theme.

I know it all sounds very wishy-washy and up in the air, but I'd like to know if there's any idea/concept/ability that expands on spontaneous casting. It's more about the flavour than the mechanics, really.

And anything for the soulknife?

 

[Shadowbane]

I wouldn't call an Assasin a power version of a rogue. it replaces the rogue's theiving abiloities with more matial ones. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

 

[nittanytbone]

For druid, its hard to beat Druid 20.

Your "focus" will depend largely on your feats rather than any PrC taken (augment summoning vs. combat stuff like improved trip vs. spell penetration & metamagic).

 

[Krafen]

Hehe, true, that. We were spoiled by having a bard in the party with the handy Calm Emotions.

The problem with relying on calm emotions is it is a 2nd level spell with a Will save (low DC). Since a Frenzied Berzerker uses Will saves to end his frenzy, he will presumably be doing his best to raise his Will save as much as possible. Also, Rage gives a bonus to Will saves.

 

[IcyCool]

I know it all sounds very wishy-washy and up in the air, but I'd like to know if there's any idea/concept/ability that expands on spontaneous casting. It's more about the flavour than the mechanics, really.

Archmage. You can get Arcane Fire, which expands your repetoire to include a no SR, no Save magical blast, you can pick up Mastery of the Elements and Mastery of Shaping, which are both better than the metamagic feats that let you do almost the same, and they don't increase spell level or casting time. The "drawback" of "losing a spell slot" for these uber abilities is limited by the fact that the sorcerer has a boat-load of spell slots. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Archmage isn't the "Super-wizard", because the loss of spell slots hurts the wizard so much more.

 

[Patlin]

The problem with relying on calm emotions is it is a 2nd level spell with a Will save (low DC). Since a Frenzied Berzerker uses Will saves to end his frenzy, he will presumably be doing his best to raise his Will save as much as possible. Also, Rage gives a bonus to Will saves.

Not being familiar with the prestige class, is there some reason the frenzied berserker couldn't voluntarilly fail his save? That would be basically accepting help in calming down, wouldn't it?