D&D 5E Price Increase on D&D & MtG coming


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FitzTheRuke

Legend
By the way, how is it that the MSRP is $49.99, yet you can buy D&D books on Amazon for $30?
That really undercuts the FLGS.
I guess the siren song of Amazon volume is too good to resist.
It works like this: I pay $27.50 USD (45% off) on a D&D Book from my distributor and sell them for $50. (Actually I am Canadian, but we'll keep it in USD to make it easier - we also lose out on the exchange rate some of the time, but that's another story). Let's say I sell 20 of them in their first year (not a core book, but that's about right on something like Decent into Avernus). I make... $450! (Less whatever I paid my Clerk to sell them, and less because I probably brought in at least 22 copies if I sold 20, but you follow me...)

Meanwhile, Amazon sells 'em for, what, $37? (Depends on the book, the PHB goes for $32 but "rarer" books can go as high as $40). Let's say $37. They probably pay somewhere around $20 per. But they sell 100k of them! (I don't know how accurate that is, but let's go with it...) They make $1.7 Million!

On top of all that, I probably pay my employees 1.5x as much as Bezos does his. And mine probably spent more time doing it, too.
 




D&D is increasingly getting unappealing. I already preordered and couldn't cancel them, so this likely won't effect them, as its through amazon. Still I doubt I will.be doing much more business with them anyways.

Why? The global shipping problem isn’t their fault, and it’s perfectly reasonable to try and offset the huge price increases.

You seem to see this as some sort of nefarious plan on their part or something.
 


Dragonblade

Adventurer
Its not government spending, its supply and transportation if goods issues, as well as Saudi Arabia cutting oil supply at the WORST possible time.
Of course it is absolutely a factor.

You cannot inject several trillion dollars into an economy without massively devaluing the dollars already there, especially if those dollars were not generated through creation of capital but through simply printing more of them.

Certainly you are correct that energy supply, including price of oil is also a factor.
 


thundershot

Adventurer
Well…. I’m glad I have Fizban and Witchlight locked in on Amazon for $30. Strixhaven didn’t go down as much and still sits at $45. Prices go up. It’s part of the world.
 

aco175

Legend
At what point does it become feasible to print in the USA or Europe? I'm guessing that it is not yet since they are not going to do this. Then there is also the question of printing with cheaper material like thinner paper and softcover, but same thing assuming they would have looked at it already. I'm guessing there is a chart with what people are willing to pay for what quality.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
At what point does it become feasible to print in the USA or Europe? I'm guessing that it is not yet since they are not going to do this. Then there is also the question of printing with cheaper material like thinner paper and softcover, but same thing assuming they would have looked at it already. I'm guessing there is a chart with what people are willing to pay for what quality.

Afaik the 5E books are printed in the USA.
 


Parmandur

Book-Friend
Yup, Van Richten's was printed in the USA @aco175 :
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Wonder if this is going to increase the prices of my digital (FG) versions? I guess probably since they tend to price them relevant to the hardcover MSRP. But maybe not, we'll see.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Wonder if this is going to increase the prices of my digital (FG) versions? I guess probably since they tend to price them relevant to the hardcover MSRP. But maybe not, we'll see.

Theoretically yes as other costs will increase. But any such increase should be lower since they don't need to use materials as such to produce it.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Everyone's battling this. 2 years ago you could get a 40' container from China to the US for like $2500. This year it's $10k-$15k, or more if you want it delivered promptly.
5% inflation doesn't help things either.

I'm in the transportation world. Everyone's taking at least one price increase this year even for domestic transportation.
I work in autoparts, and yeah prices have been going up steadily, especially on parts that are primarily made overseas.

But this increase? Honestly probably overdue, right?
 

Zardnaar

Legend
I work in autoparts, and yeah prices have been going up steadily, especially on parts that are primarily made overseas.

But this increase? Honestly probably overdue, right?

Apparently there's a big shortage of containers. China's had Covid outbreak if they lock down their ports.....

Think we have large piles of empty containers but it's not worth picking them up due to shipping shortage.
 

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