Questions: Lance, Cavalier, Charge, & Spirited Charge ??

[dagger]

Just wondering what the multiplier would be in these situations? Me and my players just wanted to be sure. Thank you very much!

1. Cavalier with a normal charge, and with NO crit:
   
2. Cavalier with a normal charge, and WITH a crit:
   
3. Cavalier with a Deadly Charge, and with NO crit
   
4. Cavalier with a Deadly Charge, and WITH a crit:

And what if you throw in the Spirited Charge feat?!?

 

[dagger]

Ok, after some self help (PHB 304) and searching on Wizards site, tell me if these examples are correct:

Charge With Longsword With Spirited Charge WITHOUT Critical X2
Charge With Longsowrd With Spirited Charge WITH Critical X3

Charge With Longsword With Spirited Charge with Deadly Charge WITHOUT Critical X3
Charge With Longsowrd With Spirited Charge with Deadly Charge WITH Critical X4

Charge With Lance With Spirited Charge WITHOUT Critical X3
Charge With Lance With Spirited Charge WITH Critical X4

Charge With Lance With Spirited Charge with Deadly Charge WITHOUT Critical X4
Charge With Lance With Spirited Charge wITH Deadly Charge WITH Critical X5

 

[Hypersmurf]

Charge With Lance With Spirited Charge WITHOUT Critical X3
Charge With Lance With Spirited Charge WITH Critical X4

A lance has a x3 critical. So a Spirited Charge lance crit is base damage x3 x3, which by D&D maths equals base damage x5.

-Hyp.

 

[dagger]

Other than that, the rest look ok? THis stuff is breaking my brain today for some reason! Man I need some sleep.


So a guy on a horse charging with a lance with Spirited Charge (with NO CRIT) does X3 damage or X4?

I'm trying to get all this right for one of my players who is going to be using a longsword and lance from a mount a whole lot.





SPIRITED CHARGE [GENERAL]
Prerequisites: Ride 1 rank, Mounted Combat, Ride-By Attack.

Benefit: When mounted and using the charge action, you deal double damage with a melee weapon (or triple damage with a lance).

Special: A fighter may select Spirited Charge as one of his fighter bonus feats.

 

[Legildur]

So a guy on a horse charging with a lance with Spirited Charge (with NO CRIT) does X3 damage or X4?

Triple damage with no crit. For a medium sized lance, that'd be 3d8+(3xbonuses).

 

[dagger]

REDO

Charge With Longsword With Spirited Charge WITHOUT Critical X2
Charge With Longsowrd With Spirited Charge WITH Critical X2 + X2 = X3

Charge With Longsword With Spirited Charge with Deadly Charge WITHOUT Critical X3
Charge With Longsowrd With Spirited Charge with Deadly Charge WITH Critical X3 + X2 = X4

Charge With Lance With Spirited Charge WITHOUT Critical X3
Charge With Lance With Spirited Charge WITH Critical X3 + X3 = X5

Charge With Lance With Spirited Charge with Deadly Charge WITHOUT Critical X4
Charge With Lance With Spirited Charge wITH Deadly Charge WITH Critical X4 + X3 = X6

 

[Hypersmurf]

REDO

That looks fine.

"With Spirited Charge With Deadly Charge" is a bit redundant, since the two don't stack, but one is (effectively) a requirement for the other.

You might as well just say "With Deadly Charge" and be done with it

-Hyp.

 

[Drowbane]

Anybody know a Druid-friendly PrC that gets Deadly Charge?

Didn't think so... :/

 

[Bloodweaver1]

Don't forget to eventually add Unstable Charge in your calculations. Though I am not too sure what the outcome would look like besides death.

On a side note do people know if character could take 'diving charge' out of the RoW and have it ably to a flying mount? If so you might want to have your player take a look at that feat. Could be helpful.

-BW

 

[NimrodvanHall]

That looks fine.

"With Spirited Charge With Deadly Charge" is a bit redundant, since the two don't stack, but one is (effectively) a requirement for the other.

You might as well just say "With Deadly Charge" and be done with it

-Hyp.

what leads you to this conclusion?