Quick (heh heh) question about Quickdraw

[Kai Lord]

Quickdraw is not Quicksheath.

Right, but as mentioned above, nothing would stop you from firing an arrow, then drawing your sword while still holding the bow in your off-hand (remember you only fire with your primary hand), attack with your sword, drop the sword, then Quickdraw another arrow and fire. Cool.

 

[Cloudgatherer]

Pop quiz hot shots. You have the Quickdraw feat, a bow, a sword, and three attacks per round. Can you make your first attack with your bow, then switches weapons (free action) and hack with your sword, then switch AGAIN and fire another shot from your bow, all in the same round?

Enquiring Peerless Archers want to know....

Not unless you can put away and take out your bow and sword as free actions (and I don't know of a feat that allows sheathing as a free action).

 

[Li Shenron]

You have the Quickdraw feat, a bow, a sword, and three attacks per round. Can you make your first attack with your bow, then switches weapons (free action) and hack with your sword, then switch AGAIN and fire another shot from your bow, all in the same round?

Yes, you can.


- Start with the bow in your hand and perform Attack 1.

- Quick-draw the sword and perform Attack 2 with ONE HAND (keep the bow in the off-hand).

- Drop the sword (free action) and perform Attack 3 with the bow.

- Feel free to take a 5' foot step anytime


You can't sheath the sword in the same round, so it'll be on the floor at the end: you can't do this sequence again in the next round (move-equivalent also to pick it up again).

The above assumes that you make a full-round action, and that your DM doesn't rule you MUST do all your iterative attacks with the same weapon, which would be a house rule anyway.

 

[Enkhidu]

You know, I have a character (in the current campaign, as a matter of fact) that uses a bow on some rounds and draws a sword on others. But I've always done it in separate rounds, and neither myself or the DM seems to think that it's a problem.

But to do it in the same round?

I'd be tempted to say that if that's the way the round went that two-weapon combat rules would come into play, with the sword being inthe primary hand.

 

[kreynolds]

I'd be tempted to say that if that's the way the round went that two-weapon combat rules would come into play, with the sword being inthe primary hand.

You can hold something in one hand and use your other hand to attack and not suffer two-weapon fighting penalties. As long as you don't attack with your off-hand (whichever that may be at the time) you don't suffer the penalties.

 

[TiQuinn]

Re: Re: Re: Quick (heh heh) question about Quickdraw

I could also perform 57 coup de grace's as a free action if my DM let me, but that's not really a valid argument, now is it?

Sheating the weapon is what gets ya' here, but if you just drop the weapon, that's different.

That'd be one helluva rule zero!

But I'm thinking more about whether a free action can be taken during the attacks of a full action. Quick drawing a different weapon and completing a series of attacks just sounds very cool, so I'd probably allow that. I just wasn't sure if there's actually a rule somewhere that says otherwise.

Anyways, it wasn't the original question, so I'm just rambling a bit.

 

[kreynolds]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Quick (heh heh) question about Quickdraw

That'd be one helluva rule zero!

Yes, it would be. But if you have these feats...

Schmuck [General]
You are a pitiful gamer.
Benefit: You wine, complain, bitch, gripe, and throw temper tantrums more than most human beings.
Normal: Without this feat, a character might actually be called “human”, as they are somewhat tolerable.
Special: This feat doesn’t do anything on it’s own, but it is necessary to access many other feats for ruthless gamers.

Shameless [General]
You have no self respect.
Benefit: By having all sense of shame removed from your psyche, there is little that you won’t do to get what you want.
Normal: Most DM’s wouldn’t give you the time of day, no matter what you offer, even if you offered a crap-load of money, you’re that pitiful.
Special: This feat doesn’t actually grant anything, though it does keep you from killing yourself due to shame because of your actions.

Get Whatever You Want [General]
You can get whatever you want from your DM with little fuss.
Prerequisites: Cha 8+, Schmuck, Shameless.
Benefit: You are a schmuck. You know this. Everyone knows this. You don’t care. By sleeping with the DM, you can get just about anything you want, such as a Wish spell granting you a +1 increase to your base attack bonus or another feat. Whenever you use this feat, you must make a Charisma check. The check is set by your DM.
Normal: Without this feat, you just bitch a lot and are simply begging to be buried alive.
Special: My god…you suck. A character with the Shameless feat gains a +2 competence bonus to all Get Whatever You Want checks.

Quick Kill [General]
You can deliver killing blows in the blink of an eye.
Prerequisites: Death Blow, Get Whatever You Want, Schmuck, Shameless.
Benefit: You can perform a coup de grace as a free action as many times per round as you wish. Also, you can do this anytime during the round, even during other people’s actions. Furthermore, performing a coup de grace no longer provokes an attack of opportunity and your target no longer needs to be helpless.
Normal: A coup de grace is a full-round action.
Special: Actually, performing a coup de grace is still a full-round action. Technically, it also still provokes an attack of opportunity. Oh yeah, your opponent still needs to be helpless. Oh, and one more thing, you still can only perform a coup de grace during your action. In truth, this feat doesn’t do an f’ing thing except convince your munchkin-ass pitiful self that you really are doing stuff that’s impossible.

...anything is possible.

But I'm thinking more about whether a free action can be taken during the attacks of a full action.

A free action can be taken at any time during your action, or any time at all in some rare cases. Mostly, it just depends on whether or not the free action in question makes sense for it to be available in a given situation.

Quick drawing a different weapon and completing a series of attacks just sounds very cool, so I'd probably allow that.

So would I.

I just wasn't sure if there's actually a rule somewhere that says otherwise.

There is a rule, but it's very vague. It basically says you can take a free action if your DM says it's ok.

 

[Latency]

On the topic of quick draw does the feat apply to all weapons or do you have to define the weapon to quick draw.

Sorry if this has been asked a million times before.

 

[kreynolds]

On the topic of quick draw does the feat apply to all weapons or do you have to define the weapon to quick draw.

All weapons.

 

[Dimwhit]

If a ranger has ambidexterity/two weapon fighting, quick draw and rapid shot, can he start with his bow, fire twice (rapid shot) drop bow,quick draw swords and attack with them?

What if he has multiple attacks from bab, can he take first normal attack with the bow, then rapid shot with it, change weapons and take second normal attack with his sword, and get an offhand attack?

I could be wrong, but I say no. I believe Rapid Shot requires a full-round action. Someone please tell me if I'm wrong.