Racial flex stats are up!

[UngeheuerLich]

Illegal or not, it's a fact.

I don't necessarily condone it, of course, nor did I tell anyone publicly where this information is available. A 5-second google search will do more than I can in 5 posts.

I pointed it out to illustrate the relative ineptitude of WotC and their update process, compared to a small group of dedicated fans using discarded technology.

Take from that what you will.

I still hope, they recognize the gnome mistake and let him have cha and int/dex as stats, because for creatures that have no compensation for that is not fair since their NADs suffer. Except for dwarves who are good enough with optional +str. At least no Str/Wis option which would have been extremely good.

 

[interwyrm]

I understand why people get up in arms about piracy. This is different though. I wouldn't be surprised if most people who use the cbloader are paying DDI subscribers, and just find it more convenient. It may be illegal, but there is no moral argument to be made... and honestly I don't see why anyone would harp on it.

 

[Nemesis Destiny]

I understand why people get up in arms about piracy. This is different though. I wouldn't be surprised if most people who use the cbloader are paying DDI subscribers, and just find it more convenient. It may be illegal, but there is no moral argument to be made... and honestly I don't see why anyone would harp on it.

Lawful Neutral used to be an alignment

As an aside, you are mostly correct from what I can tell about the alleged subscribership of many involved in the project.

That said, we are likely skirting the edge of having this thread locked.

 

[AbdulAlhazred]

Lawful Neutral used to be an alignment

As an aside, you are mostly correct from what I can tell about the alleged subscribership of many involved in the project.

That said, we are likely skirting the edge of having this thread locked.

Nah, it has come up in threads before. While I doubt anyone here is a lawyer, so maybe some legal eagle can come up with some argument against cbloader. I have news for you though, customizing software you own/license is not inherently problematical. cbloader doesn't even help someone in any way shape or form to pirate the old CB. I suppose you could say maybe it might encourage some people to get a copy of it who aren't authorized to use it, but people were doing that anyway.

Truthfully there's only so much that cbloader can do anyway. It isn't like you can rewrite the CODE of the CB with that technique. There's a fair amount they can do, but eventually old CB is going to obsolete, even with hacking. Honestly, WotC would be smart to just give the thing away and endorse cbloader. The online CB has a whole class of functionality (integration with VTT for example) that are the real draw in the long run anyway. Having an 'intro' CB out there that non-DDI people can use makes the game more attractive.

Anyway, 'nuff derailing.

Personally I was a bit disappointed that Goliath and Minotaur both end up being STR CON WIS races. I'd have thought Goliaths could be differentiated a bit with say STR CON DEX.

 

[Mithreinmaethor]

I do believe that if you read the EULA it states that if you are no longer a DDi member that you are to delete the software.

Not the exact words but pretty sure that it is there.

 

[Aegeri]

In fairness, a lot of people who I know that are using it aren't pirates at all. They are DDI subscribers who think the OCB is complete crap. At the moment, I have no CB whatsoever as I don't use the one that certain people are maintaining and I still cannot use the OCB. Thankfully I can do everything in my head on paper + online compendium or helping my PCs would be majorly awkward.

 

[Spatula]

I like it! Especially since they matched my own - aside from the gnome, revenant, and shadar-kai - which I think is a credit to the fluff behind most races, that the choices seemed obvious. And yay, we have Kalashtar who make good telepaths! (and Devas that make good paladins!)

I am a little disappointed that all three of the ones I 'missed' are identical to stat spreads for existing races (gnome - eladrin, shadar-kai - elf, revenant - halfling). It would have been nice to have some more diversity. I pegged the gnomes as INT + CON or CHA (in previous editions, gnomes got a Strength penalty and a Consitution bonus), revenants as CON + STR or DEX (more of a 'zombie terminator' than a suave vampire type), and shadar-kai as DEX + CON or INT (Con because of all the self-inflicted pain they're into).

Now to wait for the CB to get updated... these (seemingly) minor changes that take forever to get implemented are the worst.

 

[DEFCON 1]

Anyway, in most normal campaign worlds, I don't see why racial stat pairings or class mechanics would impact NPC's. NPC's are story elements for the campaign.

Well, you're right about that, they technically don't. However, it is true that the story elements of the campaign worlds as I perceive them have genasi as extremely rare races, and thus to select one as my PC race brings about a whole host of story elements that have to do with that... unless we just completely ignore them. But that seems even worse.

Part of the reason to play a warforged in Eberron (for example) is to deal with the story elements of being a living construct in a human world. It's an intrinsic part of playing that race. By the same token, being a genasi in the Nentir Vale has an intrinsic story of being a race that is barely existent, and perhaps not even from the prime plane at all, but arrived from the Elemental Chaos. And sure, I could just ignore it... but I keep thinking to myself "well, if I don't want to play that story, then why play a genasi at all?" And to be forced to admit that the only answer I have is "because I want to play a tactical warlord with 18s in Str and Int"... just rubs me the wrong way.

I would have loved to have seen a more populous race have a Str/Int combo just so that the potential of having a more open story for the tactical warlord would be there. But as it stands now... I have to play a genasi, and thus I feel like I have to take everything storywise that goes along with it. Personal problem on my part, I fully admit... but it is what it is.

 

[I'm A Banana]

I have to play a genasi, and thus I feel like I have to take everything storywise that goes along with it

Here's a fun trick, if you're playing with an understanding DM: Refluff.

Who says that your racial mods + racial power = "Genasi?"

Maybe they just = "Especially strong and bright human."

Doesn't solve it on a core level, but for you personally, it could go a long way.

 

[Wednesday Boy]

I'm a little disappointed that the individual shifters didn't get an optional attribute since they're mechanically two different races. But it's nice to see the other races covered.