Ranged, Flanking, Sneak Attack Question

[rogan999]

Ok, i know this has probably been asked a million times.


i am going to be playing a rogue for the first time and i am wondering about Flanking with ranged weapons? Mainly when does i get my sneak attack and do i have flank with a Crossbow?

Thanks
Rogan

 

[AuraSeer]

You cannot flank with a ranged weapon, including a crossbow.

You get your sneak attack whenever your opponent loses his Dexterity bonus to AC. In general that means when he's flat-footed, or surprised, or when he cannot see you.

 

[shilsen]

You (normally) don't threaten an area with a ranged weapon, so no sneak attacking due to flanking with your crossbow. You can however get sneak attacks with it as long as your target has lost its Dex bonus (it's flatfooted, you're invisible, etc.) and is within 30 ft.

 

[MichaelH]

You cannot flank with a ranged weapon. You may get your sneak attack with a ranged weapon if you are within 30 feet of your target and your target is denied his Dex bonus to AC or is flat-footed.

Check out these articles by Skip Williams in the Rules of the Game series entitled All About Sneak Attacks for everthing you will need to know and more about sneak attacks.

 

[rogan999]

ok,

Now lets say the party i am with is engaged in combat with an enemy, and i sneaking around and hiding, and he does not see me, i attack with a ranged weapon, would he be denied his dex, because he does not know that i am there?
Rogan

 

[jarlaxlecq]

ok,

Now lets say the party i am with is engaged in combat with an enemy, and i sneaking around and hiding, and he does not see me, i attack with a ranged weapon, would he be denied his dex, because he does not know that i am there?
Rogan

Sure the only issue is that our DM is probaby going to say that the enemy is watching you doing the fight and without hide in plain sight hes going to say you cant hide.

 

[rogan999]

Hehehehe, That is where Bluff comes in.
Rogan

 

[jarlaxlecq]

Hehehehe, That is where Bluff comes in.
Rogan

make sure scotts familiar with the bluff and fient rules

 

[Felix]

That is where Bluff comes in.

Sorry, buddy. No feinting for ranged rogues:

Feinting in Combat: [/i]You can also use Bluff to mislead an opponent in melee combat (so that it can’t dodge your next attack effectively). To feint, make a Bluff check opposed by your target’s Sense Motive check, but in this case, the target may add its base attack bonus to the roll along with any other applicable modifiers.
If your Bluff check result exceeds this special Sense Motive check result, your target is denied its Dexterity bonus to AC (if any) for the next melee attack you make against it. This attack must be made on or before your next turn.

Edit: Or perhaps you mean the Create a Diversion application of Bluff? That'd be Okey-dokey, circumstance modifiers notwithstanding.

 

[Hypersmurf]

You (normally) don't threaten an area with a ranged weapon, so no sneak attacking due to flanking with your crossbow.

Threatening's irrelevant for the attacker. Whether or not you threaten is only important for the ally who's providing the other side of the flank.

What matters for the attacker is making a melee attack. You can gain flanking bonuses with a whip, for example, even though it doesn't threaten, as long as you are making a melee attack, and your ally threatens the target.

-Hyp.