Rate Revenge of the Sith *SPOILERS*

[Jdvn1]

I give it a 5.5. Round up to a 6 for the poll I guess.

Yeah, but I rounded down a la D&D-style.

Things I didn't like:

Vader's "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"
Whiny Vader sucks. Angry Vader is ok. Menacing Vader would have been much better.

This part flabergasted me. I didn't believe it could've been written like that.

Wookies talking to each other.
Very lamely done. Especially after Republic Commando handled Tarful so well. If you want to see an interesting wookie (albeit a very evil one) see Hanharr.

When the troopers took their helmets off and there were more than a few of them around.
They did multiple Agent Smith's incredibly well. But these guys looked horrible. I've seen overcut duplicates of people done better on TV and this is ing ILM!

These were annoying, but these problems paled in comparison to the others, IMO.

Padme.
Just about everything about Padme.

... Yeah. I want to say "... but (something)" but there's nothing I can put there.

The fact that Obi-Wan was the only competent looking Jedi.
Including Mace who talks about not trusting the I-wear-all-black Anakin, SEES him wavering, and then is totally blind sided when Anakin moves to stop him. What happened to seeing a fight a couple seconds into the future? I wouldn't have a problem with the Emperor and Annakin together overpowering Windu. Or even Annakin beating him. Anything but 'oops! I lost my arm.' That sucked.

To be fair, Mace said that Anakin had won his trust. If it were me, I wouldn't have raised my light saber in the first place for the finish shot -- heck, I wouldn't have let the emperor scurry along the room with that with me merely walking towards him -- but what am I compared to a Jedi? I liked Mace except for that scene. He's just cool. And Yoda was awesome. That'd make it three competent Jedi.

The Clone Wars animated series did a much better job with the action than the movies did.
Grievous was ing intimidating in the animated series. Admittedly, Windu really put the hurt on him. But here he's always hunched over and running and even when he busts out the 4 arms he doesn't do anything but get his hands chopped off.

Something about Jimmy Smits I'm forgetting really bothered me at the time.

Didn't see the animated series, but I'm just not sure Jimmy Smits worked very well in his part. And he just happened to have been considering adopting? There's not enough characterization in the movie to support the part he played.

The lightsaber fights in general.
My favorite Jedi remains Qui-Gon and his fights with Maul remain the best saber duels I've seen. Windu's handling of the saber was pathetic.

That's why Windu just had one. He had to give it a shot, right? After that, we knew it was pathetic and he didn't have to have any more. That face he makes at the end of one of the scenes is just weird, though.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

I love the fact that Palpatine used everyone as tools… Even Vader was a tool. If Luke had turned he quickly would have replaced him without ceremony… (Or at least without much, I think Palpatine did honestly consider Vader a friend... though I use the term loosely in regard to Palpatine whom I doubt ever has a true friend.)

He'd probably qualify as a true psychopath, in which case he would even understand the concept.

I'm in the opinion of a well-aged attitude... He spent how many years manipulating the senate and the republic to become emperor? (15 or so?) I say aging is really no longer an issue for him.

 

[Welverin]

But it wasn't. According to the book, Sifo-Dyas really was a Jedi Master. He wasn't Sidious as many had speculated (since the names sound similar).

I'm not saying Sifo-Dyas wasn't real, but that him ordering the creation of the clone army was a sham. Remember in Ep2 it was established that he was already dead when the clone army was ordered, which means someone was masquerading as him (likely Palaptine, but also potentially Dooku, or even Maul). So just based on the movies there is enough there to generate a reasonable explanation, and as RotS shows George doesn't feel the need to spell everything out.

 

[CrusaderX]

I'm not saying Sifo-Dyas wasn't real, but that him ordering the creation of the clone army was a sham. Remember in Ep2 it was established that he was already dead when the clone army was ordered, which means someone was masquerading as him (likely Palaptine, but also potentially Dooku, or even Maul). So just based on the movies there is enough there to generate a reasonable explanation, and as RotS shows George doesn't feel the need to spell everything out.

No, you're missing the point. According to Labyrinth of Evil, Sifo-Dyas wasn't Sidious, or Dooku, or Maul. He was an actual Jedi Master who other Jedi knew about. Nobody was masquerading as him. He was his own person, and he definitely ordered the army (though even the book doesn't really explain why, and he seemed to be acting independently - though ultimately I guess he, too, could have been a pawn of Palpatine, even though LoE doesn't say this). A masquerade would have been a good guess, I agree, but LoE specifically states otherwise.

Now, LoE could be completely wrong, since it's a book rather than a film. But I think most people who watch Episode II and then III will think that Sifo-Dyas was really Sidious, when this isn't so.

Though as a fan of the EU, I caught another EU/RotS contradiction. In the novels and comics, Ki-Adi-Mundi was a Knight, not a Master, when he was on the Council. But Episode III states that Anakin was the only Council member to ever not be a Master.

 

[Michael Tree]

Not if you were paying attention in Ep2 and caught the part when Yoda heard Qui-gon calling out.

I'd forgotten about that, and so apparently has everyone else. That's why it needed to be in this movie too. The annoying thing is that it would have been phenomenally easy to include it: Just put in one warning from Qui-Gon as Yoda is about to be ambushed on Kasshyk. That would have added to that scene, and set up the revelation at the end. As it was, Yoda's comments at the end came out of nowhere.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I'd forgotten about that, and so apparently has everyone else. That's why it needed to be in this movie too. The annoying thing is that it would have been phenomenally easy to include it: Just put in one warning from Qui-Gon as Yoda is about to be ambushed on Kasshyk. That would have added to that scene, and set up the revelation at the end. As it was, Yoda's comments at the end came out of nowhere.

Sadly, the Yoda/Qui-Gon scene was cut. But, considering how long the movie was and how much was already in it, that's understandable. I get the feeling it'll at least be on the DVD, however.

 

[wingsandsword]

Though as a fan of the EU, I caught another EU/RotS contradiction. In the novels and comics, Ki-Adi-Mundi was a Knight, not a Master, when he was on the Council. But Episode III states that Anakin was the only Council member to ever not be a Master.

I wondered about that. Of course, Ki-Adi-Mundi was always an exception case, like in the EU being granted special permission to marry because of his species. His appointment to the Council could have been temporary and thus not technically warranting the promotion, or he could have actively declined the title of Master although accepting the council seat.

Of course, Anakin could have been overreacting, which would have been very in-character for him. It could be technically possible to sit on the council and not be a Master, just very rare, and he was acting like it was the first time it had ever been done.

I actually found RotS to be very EU friendly actually. They left a wide loophole for Jedi to escape the purges and go into hiding, like those exiles who appear in the EU. Palpatine's whole "secret of immortality" even validates Dark Empire.

 

[Michael Tree]

Sadly, the Yoda/Qui-Gon scene was cut. But, considering how long the movie was and how much was already in it, that's understandable. I get the feeling it'll at least be on the DVD, however.

I didn't realize that they'd filmed it. Do you know what happened in it? No doubt lots of stilted and unneccessarily long exposition. The little editing trick I suggested wouldn't have taken any extra time. (And couldn't lucas have done away with one of the "frantic running around doing unimportant things" scenes in the middle? )

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I didn't realize that they'd filmed it. Do you know what happened in it? No doubt lots of stilted and unneccessarily long exposition. The little editing trick I suggested wouldn't have taken any extra time. (And couldn't lucas have done away with one of the "frantic running around doing unimportant things" scenes in the middle? )

I don't know the details. I DO know that in the novel, Yoda does have a conversation with a disembodied Qui-Gon...this was definitely cut from the movie, but whether it was just Qui-Gon's voice or an actual blue spirity Qui-Gon, I can't say.

 

[fett527]

...Well, the future lacks certain modern day basics, such as basic forensic science (fingerprints? never heard of them!)...

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...