D&D Movie/TV Rawson Thurber will write and direct the D&D TV Series!


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DND_Reborn

The High Aldwin
Yes, I advocate D&D for all types, for kids to adults. No need to pigeonhole it to one style of show.
Certainly not, but you already have Vox for adults, how about something for the people who would like to be able to share D&D with their kids via a TV show, without having to dig out the 80's DVDs... ;)
 

D&D should be family-friendly, or +10/+13. If the script is good, boobs and gore aren't necessary. Hercules: the Legendary Journys and Xena: the Warrior Princess weren't too "mature". And Hasbro needs a new generation of D&D players. To be enough kid-frienly is an important marketing strategy. Hasbro also wants to sell toys and videogames. Maybe they are thinking about something like Baby Yoda/Grogu.

And D&D is enough open for different styles. Some one-shot set in Ravenloft can be right for mature audences. Dark Sun is right for a +13 tone/mood.
 

DND_Reborn

The High Aldwin
D&D should be family-friendly, or +10/+13. If the script is good, boobs and gore aren't necessary. Hercules: the Legendary Journys and Xena: the Warrior Princess weren't too "mature". And Hasbro needs a new generation of D&D players. To be enough kid-frienly is an important marketing strategy. Hasbro also wants to sell toys and videogames. Maybe they are thinking about something like Baby Yoda/Grogu.

And D&D is enough open for different styles. Some one-shot set in Ravenloft can be right for mature audences. Dark Sun is right for a +13 tone/mood.
Nailed it.
 

payn

Legend
D&D should be family-friendly, or +10/+13. If the script is good, boobs and gore aren't necessary. Hercules: the Legendary Journys and Xena: the Warrior Princess weren't too "mature". And Hasbro needs a new generation of D&D players. To be enough kid-frienly is an important marketing strategy. Hasbro also wants to sell toys and videogames. Maybe they are thinking about something like Baby Yoda/Grogu.

And D&D is enough open for different styles. Some one-shot set in Ravenloft can be right for mature audences. Dark Sun is right for a +13 tone/mood.
Right, Hercules and Xenia were more camp and cleavage.
 

Nebulous

Legend
By today's standard, Conan would be PG-13 probably... (sadly, IMO, but whatever).


Hard disagree there. Was it like Conan? No, it was good i

Certainly not, but you already have Vox for adults, how about something for the people who would like to be able to share D&D with their kids via a TV show, without having to dig out the 80's DVDs... ;)
I do want a show for kids, but I don't like Vox or that style of animation. I want something that I like too. D&D is big enough to accommodate everything.
 

Nebulous

Legend
D&D should be family-friendly, or +10/+13. If the script is good, boobs and gore aren't necessary. Hercules: the Legendary Journys and Xena: the Warrior Princess weren't too "mature". And Hasbro needs a new generation of D&D players. To be enough kid-frienly is an important marketing strategy. Hasbro also wants to sell toys and videogames. Maybe they are thinking about something like Baby Yoda/Grogu.

And D&D is enough open for different styles. Some one-shot set in Ravenloft can be right for mature audences. Dark Sun is right for a +13 tone/mood.
Dark Sun is perfect for PG-13.
 

Sometimes to imply/insituate is better to showing it directly. Exo-Squad was a cartoon with a relatively mature tone, but without being explicite violence. Today it may be +10y.

Dark Sun needs a lot of work to design its special look. It is perfect for a survival videogame (something like Conan Exiles), and Birghtright for a 4X(Explore, Expand, Exploit, Exterminate) videogame.

Ravenloft is right for audence who knows nothing about D&D, some production like "Ready or Not", "Scary Stories to tell in the Darkness", Tim Burton's "Dark Shadows" or "Crimson Peak". The new Ravenloft has been redesigned to allow horror stories more kid-friendly if you want that. But here the titles should be for the TV or streaming services.


Dragonlance is the pending subject. I don't advice the main trilogy in the big screen but "one-shot" story to introduce the franchise. A videogame needs time and money, but if it works, it can help to promote the brand. (I don't imagine Tas and Flint as skins in Fortnite, but maybe as bodyguard nPCs to be hired). If Disney wanted a D&D adaptation, maybe the favorite candidate would be Dragonlance.

Gamma World may be easier to be adapted into action-live. It can also be a shooter-videogame, but with lots of rivals fighting to avoid falling in the oblivion. I advice an off-line survival+building camps/stronghold. In the right hands it may become a serious rival for Fallout videogame saga.

WotC has got two options. Or only one company can produce D&D, or partnership with different companies. This could allow a new opportunity for serie B lines (Mystara, Birthright, Jakandor..). Maybe Hasbro discovers there is a future merger between Comcast and ViacomCBS and then to think if the partnership deal with Paramount should be renewed.
 



I mean Red Notice is. Like, everything about Red Notice seems like a film which would have been made 5 years ago or maybe slightly more. It just feels dated and like something we've seen done before, a number of times.
I think "old fashioned" is more accurate than "dated". It could have been made pretty much any time since they invented action movies.

And if you think about it, it's a pretty good model for D&D: a hackneyed plot involving a heist and treasure hunt for some meaningless McGuffins serves as a vehicle for a group of larger-than-life characters to wisecrack their way through a succession of action sequences.
 

I think "old fashioned" is more accurate than "dated". It could have been made pretty much any time since they invented action movies.
I think we're talking about slightly different things. I don't think it was actually that old-fashioned, though I get what you mean, I specifically mean dated because of the way the characters and plot are approached and so on. The dialogue and characterization are tired too. They don't have to be, people make new fun action movies all the time, but they were here.
And if you think about it, it's a pretty good model for D&D: a hackneyed plot involving a heist and treasure hunt for some meaningless McGuffins serves as a vehicle for a group of larger-than-life characters to wisecrack their way through a succession of action sequences.
That's kind of the concern though. That can work at a table, but week after week, I dunno, I don't think it's going to hold audiences in 2022. I think it'll come across as an inferior, live-action Vox Machina if they go that way - which is what I was saying.

If they do something wackier like a 2022 update of the "It's a Dungeons and Dragons ride!" though, that maybe has more potential.
 

I think we're talking about slightly different things. I don't think it was actually that old-fashioned, though I get what you mean, I specifically mean dated because of the way the characters and plot are approached and so on. The dialogue and characterization are tired too. They don't have to be, people make new fun action movies all the time, but they were here.

That's kind of the concern though. That can work at a table, but week after week, I dunno, I don't think it's going to hold audiences in 2022. I think it'll come across as an inferior, live-action Vox Machina if they go that way - which is what I was saying.

If they do something wackier like a 2022 update of the "It's a Dungeons and Dragons ride!" though, that maybe has more potential.
Red Notice was Netfix's most successful movie ever. So whether old fashioned or dated, the audience liked it. Whatever they where doing "5 years ago" is more popular than what they are doing now.
 
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Red Notice was Netfix's most successful movie ever. So whether old fashioned or dated, the audience liked it. Whatever they where doing "5 years ago" is more popular than what they are doing now.
You don't think putting Ryan Reynolds, Gal Gadot and The Rock in one movie, all of them playing [Default Character] was the trick to it being so successful? I mean, I ask because I do. If Reynolds wasn't in it, I wouldn't have even bothered watching it, based on the synopsis and trailers. Reynolds AND the Rock AND Gadot? I pretty much had to.

I'm not saying Netflix doesn't know what they're doing.

My critique is of the writing specifically, and I don't think it follows, logically, that whatever they were doing 5+ years ago is "more popular", because, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the first time Netflix has assembled so many high-value, charming A-listers in one movie? Normally they spread them out.

I'm certainly hoping Thurber writes a great D&D series. I'm just y'know, skeptical. Especially as Bright (aka Shadowrun Lite - now with more crude racial analogies!) was their previous "most successful movie on Netflix", and it was rather dreadful, writing-wise (and action-wise, actually), it just had Will Smith in it.
 

You don't think putting Ryan Reynolds, Gal Gadot and The Rock in one movie, all of them playing [Default Character] was the trick to it being so successful?
Yes, absolutely. And the star vehicle is a very old fashioned, and very successful, mode of film making. What Do you think Danny Kaye in The Court Jester was? Ryan Reynolds is Danny Kaye 2022.

And star vehicle is what a D&D adventure is, with the players as the stars.
 

Yes, absolutely. And the star vehicle is a very old fashioned, and very successful, mode of film making. What Do you think Danny Kaye in The Court Jester was? Ryan Reynolds is Danny Kaye 2022.

And star vehicle is what a D&D adventure is, with the players as the stars.
You're still kind of missing my point, I think.

I agree that the star vehicle is an eternal structure for a movie, and yeah D&D games are like that - and a lot of TV series' are kind of like that as well, albeit with more minor stars.

But when I say 5+ years ago, I don't mean the structure in that broad sense (as you point out, that's far more ancient than 5 years, and I'm not a 20-something who thinks everything just happened just now lol), I mean the plot and dialogue. To me it seemed dated and clumsy, and barely being kept alive by the stars and action.

We'll see anyway, whether Thurber makes something worth watching, or whether, over time, what I perceive as his weakness with plot/dialogue will cause a problem.
 

MarkB

Legend
I enjoyed Red Notice well enough, right up until the Unexpected Plot Twist, which killed it dead for me and left me not caring about what happened to any of the characters.
 

Oofta

Legend
So the most popular movie on Netflix ever somehow means that one of the D&D shows will be terrible? Yes, Red Notice was the equivalent of movie comfort food. I thought it was reasonably enjoyable. Maybe I'm just not an artiste that feels like I need to pass judgement on whether it was, like, so 15 minutes ago.

Maybe the new TV show will be good, maybe it will be bad. The fact that it's happening and is being headed up by someone who produced something I've actually heard of is encouraging. But people will come up with any reason to assume the worst. :rolleyes:
 

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