OGL Ray Winninger comments on the OGL


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Of he knows but is forbidden to say. His language is just a response to what is going on in the public domain, no more or no less.

Exactly, carefully chosen language that doesn't violate any NDAs, I mean of course he knows the leak is real, it's not an accident he went from major D&D cheerleader to dead silence to gone at the same time this would have been developed. At least the mystery why he left has been answered as far as I'm concerned.

At this point if WotC wants to fix this fire the current WotC President, and give the job to Ray Winninger, get on their hands and knees and beg him to come back if they have to, but right now, he's the only one who has the crediblity to fix this. Offering a huge raise, promotion, more power, anything it takes to come back.
 

I disagree. I think it is in the best interests long term. Take D&D away from Hasbro - they are irresponsible and disrespectful stewards of the industry leader. It is in better hands elsewhere.
It stinks in the short (and possibly medium) terms.
But long term, I want to see some scorched earth at WotC and Hasbro.
The same people who insist the couple dozen tens of thousand people who purchase 3pp will tell you that the company that grew the game to its greatest heights and acceptance in the general culture have disrespected the game
 

Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
Exactly, carefully chosen language that doesn't violate any NDAs, I mean of course he knows the leak is real, it's not an accident he went from major D&D cheerleader to dead silence to gone at the same time this would have been developed. At least the mystery why he left has been answered as far as I'm concerned.

It reads like a person who knows about who made the decisions to go with the OGL 1.1, his inaability to say who made the decision and who on the inside agrees with it, and his disagreement with it.

The moretime goes on, the more it sounds that there is a major separation between the creatives and the execs and what happened would happen with any gaming company if they were this big and publically traded.
 
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Clint_L

Hero
I disagree. I think it is in the best interests long term. Take D&D away from Hasbro - they are irresponsible and disrespectful stewards of the industry leader. It is in better hands elsewhere.
It stinks in the short (and possibly medium) terms.
But long term, I want to see some scorched earth at WotC and Hasbro.
The thing is, if someone is taking D&D away from Hasbro, it'll be someone like Disney or Comcast, not a mom and pop organization. I don't see a future where D&D is not in the hands of ever larger corporations.
 


Sacrosanct

Legend
Publisher
The thing is, if someone is taking D&D away from Hasbro, it'll be someone like Disney or Comcast, not a mom and pop organization. I don't see a future where D&D is not in the hands of ever larger corporations.
Yeah. If we can't get IP like Thundarr or Pirates of Dark Water (dead IPs for all intents and purposes) out of the hands of corporations, no way D&D will be.
 


Retreater

Legend
The thing is, if someone is taking D&D away from Hasbro, it'll be someone like Disney or Comcast, not a mom and pop organization. I don't see a future where D&D is not in the hands of ever larger corporations.
Yes. This is moment in our hobby where we learn that we no longer matter, that we can't play the way we want, that content is packaged by a corporation that has no foundation in games anymore (when even WotC had connections to magic cards).
And this is the time when many fans (like myself) realize that it's artists, creative minds, and those who have inspiration that we want to invite into our imaginations - those who fantasize about dragons more than dollar signs.
D&D has lost its soul. I'm not going to sell my imagination, my hobby time, my precious moments with friends and family, to the highest bidder ... people who clearly can give a rat's behind about how we enjoy the game.
 

Reynard

Legend
Yes. This is moment in our hobby where we learn that we no longer matter, that we can't play the way we want, that content is packaged by a corporation that has no foundation in games anymore (when even WotC had connections to magic cards).
And this is the time when many fans (like myself) realize that it's artists, creative minds, and those who have inspiration that we want to invite into our imaginations - those who fantasize about dragons more than dollar signs.
D&D has lost its soul. I'm not going to sell my imagination, my hobby time, my precious moments with friends and family, to the highest bidder ... people who clearly can give a rat's behind about how we enjoy the game.
Emphasis mine.
Bollocks.

Nobody controls how you play besides you.
 



Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
The thing is, if someone is taking D&D away from Hasbro, it'll be someone like Disney or Comcast, not a mom and pop organization. I don't see a future where D&D is not in the hands of ever larger corporations.
Yeah, it would take a cartoonish rich person to overpay for the D&D IP for it ever to not be under hands that aren't publically traded. But then you have a know problem.

What's happening to D&D could happen to any TTRPG IP. I tell yall right now. If Paizo ever becomes big and publically traded or bought by some entity that is: that free wiki is gone.

All you can hope that enough people stating disagreements with bad ideas like Ray can convince decisions like this before it's too late.
 

Scribe

Legend
Yeah, it would take a cartoonish rich person to overpay for the D&D IP for it ever to not be under hands that aren't publically traded. But then you have a know problem.

What's happening to D&D could happen to any TTRPG IP. I tell yall right now. If Paizo ever becomes big and publically traded or bought by some entity that is: that free wiki is gone.

All you can hope that enough people stating disagreements with bad ideas like Ray can convince decisions like this before it's too late.

All true, the root of the issue is, as per usual.

Greed, and being publicly traded.
 

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