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Like I said, it can all be made to work in the context of LotR. But I think the biggest thing that changed between the two books was JRRT himself.
Well, himself and the intent of the work. The Hobbit was written as a story for kids; his own kids, originally, as I recall. The narrator's voice in it, with its modern asides, and the tonal differences all make sense for such a story.Like I said, it can all be made to work in the context of LotR. But I think the biggest thing that changed between the two books was JRRT himself.
Like I said, it can all be made to work in the context of LotR. But I think the biggest thing that changed between the two books was JRRT himself.
I'm actually aging backwards, like Merlin or Benjamin Buttons (has anyone ever seen those two together?), so it remains to be seen.Yeah, well, The Hobbit was published in 1937. LotR was published in 1954. Are you the same person as you were 17 ears ago, back in 2005?
Well, I'm still here at EN World, so yeah pretty much.Yeah, well, The Hobbit was published in 1937. LotR was published in 1954. Are you the same person as you were 17 ears ago, back in 2005?
It's the first sentence of the thread, my man.Maybe if you listen to Serkis reading LOTR they would seem more similar.
That you're listening to his reading of The Hobbit. Not that you've listened to his reading of LotR.It's the first sentence of the thread, my man.
Yeah, well, The Hobbit was published in 1937. LotR was published in 1954. Are you the same person as you were 17 ears ago, back in 2005?
Including Tom Bombadil in a book for children would be needlessly cruel.Another thing that deserves mention is that both The Hobbit and LOTR were written with different audiences in mind. One wonders what The Hobbit would've been like had it been written for adults, or LOTR if it had been written for children.
Another thing that deserves mention is that both The Hobbit and LOTR were written with different audiences in mind. One wonders what The Hobbit would've been like had it been written for adults, or LOTR if it had been written for children.
Including Tom Bombadil in a book for children would be needlessly cruel.
I get the in-world explanation, but it's still hard for me to reconcile just how different the setting of the Hobbit is in many ways. This is probably my fifth or sixth time reading it and, if folks haven't read it recently, just remembering it, a lot of the little details are striking in how they aren't what anyone would associate with the world of LotR.Tolkien uses the authorial device that he is the translator, not the author. The Hobbit is based on Bilbo's diaries, and reflects his perspective on events, whilst LotR is based on Frodo's diaries (completed by Sam). The movie versions hint at, but don't sufficiently lean into IMO, the idea that Bilbo is an unreliable narrator.
I find the most disturbing element of the Serkis LotR audiobook is when he sings every line of Tom Bombadil's dialog. Every. Line.Including Tom Bombadil in a book for children would be needlessly cruel.
I get the in-world explanation, but it's still hard for me to reconcile just how different the setting of the Hobbit is in many ways.