Real world myths and legends: Who's Epic Level?

[Frostmarrow]

REMO

 

[Vuron]

Lowtax definitely has Epic jester abilities

 

[Enforcer]

Rand certainly has Epic levels in the "Whiner" prestige class...

Fair enough, and every female has about 30 levels in the sniffing/berating men PrC.

 

[Aaron L]

Snake Plisken. I actually liked Escape from LA, and when all the crazy stuff started happening I said to myself "He's gotten so good he's starting to break mortal bounds." Surfing a wave down a city street is epic

Ash, almost. I'd say at the end of Army of Darkness he was close to epic, maybe 19th-20th range.

Beowulf definately, holding your breath as you swim for days is hard.

Victor Frankenstein, epic level expert. Creating life with 19th century non-magic equipment is epic.

Captain America definately. A normal man that can hold his own with dieties in his party.

Silver Surfer, after standing up to Galactus and Mephisto.

Waddya think?

 

[SableWyvern]

The Gandalf discussion prompts me to state that, IMHO, a magic using non-d&d character cannot be given an accurate d&d level by relating the spells he casts to their level-equivalents in d20.

This discussion by its very nature must allow for some degreee of abstraction, and I think that calling Merlin a "4th level Druid at best" (or something to that affect) is grossly unfair.

IOW, where the magic system of a setting cannot be accurately modeled by the d20 system, that magic system cannot be used as a defining guage of character level.

Or, to put it yet another way, remember that everyone discussed in this thread comes from a homebrew world with a lot of house rules.

 

[Darklone]

Uh guys

You're trying to ride the horse backwards.

Just because a game some American guys with questionable knowledge of myths and epics made ... you try to scale some heroes by that very game?

E.g.: He didn't have this spell, thus he can't be level blah...

Those stories have not been written or told with D&D game mechanics in mind. So let me simply quote Sir Bob if anyone posts such petty arguments: Nih!

 

[Black Omega]

Glad a few people finally mentined Capt. American. He's epic on -so- many levels.

And lay off Diomedes, he was always one of my favorites, even if he needed divine help to lay the smack down on Ares. Achilles only got the props because he was immune to physical attacks (almost) and was given all the best weapons and armor.

Miyamoto Musashi would probably qualify. 20 levels in fighter/samurai, then add on levels in Artisan and Warmaster.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Wolverine yet.

 

[Darklone]

Shakespeare (Bard)
Elijah (Cleric/Prophet)
John the Baptist (Cleric/Druid)
Samson (Barabarian/Monk)

Shakespeare? First make sure he wrote all that stuff himself (It's doubted a lot... He's perhaps been a ghostwriter for some anonymous nobleman)

 

[Enforcer]

Miyamoto Musashi would probably qualify. 20 levels in fighter/samurai, then add on levels in Artisan and Warmaster.

That's the samurai I was talking about! Thanks Black Omega!

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Colonel Hardisson mate!

The only one I'd debate is Odysseus. I never saw any evidence that he could do anything that a 20th level and below character could not do. Achilles seemingly could do things that nobody else could do. Not that fighting prowess is the only criterion, but he was just so much better than everyone else he'd be the obvious choice for me.

Well obviously Hercules is the big boy on the block.

But looking beyond him the reason I chose Odysseus is because he is the most multi-faceted of the remaining greek heroes. His adventures are the most extensive so he could well be the most experienced!?

Incidently Colonel Hardisson, did you happen to vote in my 'favourite mythology poll' - if so who for!?