Now all that is needed for PF2 to be successful beyond itself is to have the 5e gamers somehow feel betrayed by 5e.
Whether or not they compete for the exact same niche or on the same terms/scale, Paizo is always in direct competition with WotC just as they are with every other RPG company simply because customers don't have unlimited time or money enough to buy and play all examples of somewhat similar products.Much of the commentary here suggests that they should have tried to compete directly with Wizards. I think that would be a mistake. Paizo has always really excelled at catering to a devoted audience with detailed lore, extremely challenging adventures, and a game that allows you to build the character you want to play. It's their core competency.
They've talked about those on Dragon Talk: they are officially licensed notebooks for DM's, one with writing prompts for world building, the other with Monster stats and such.
Out since June at Target. Amazon only got it a week ago, and I know there were folks who don't have Target's in their area, were foiled by the shortages in online fulfilllment from Target in the past few months, or were waiting for the significant discount.Especially since it's been out since June! Though I've heard repeated stories of shortages at Target.
It's #2,240 in Books now.So, as of 9/10, The PF2 Core has fallen to #17 (#2,065 in Books), behind the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide ( #1,580 in Books) and Curse of Strahd (#1,811 in Books), maintaining a solid lead over Ghosts of Saltmarsh (#2,367 in Books).
I mean, think about it this way. Some good people work at Paizo. And sure, I'd love to see some of their stuff for 5e. But, I also prefer the people working there be happy, and work on things they want to work on and are proud of. Which is almost certainly their own system rather than someone else's system.This is really bad, but I kinda hope PF2 flops to encourage the great creative team to produce products as a third party for 5e...
Adventure path conversions for the back catalogue and future products. Conversion for Golarion as a 5e setting.
They are saying their sales on Amazon are better than what they got for PF1, and it is outselling every other RPG (maybe Star Wars is doing better?). It seems it is really more about how big 5E is at 5 years, than a problem for Paizo. I mean, the Sword Coast Adventurers Guide is still selling like gangbusters, nearly 4 years old and having a mixed reception critically speaking? Bonkers.It's #2,240 in Books now.
Man I am having trouble imagining this is where Paizo thought this book would be ranking at this early point in the sales cycle. Maybe they did (I hope they did), but it sure seems like they'd do a print run heavier than accounting for that type of sales ranking, even assuming a majority of sales are direct to the customer from them.