Pathfinder 2E Release Day Second Edition Amazon Sales Rank

[Green Onceler]

Could it be that the sales of PF 1 appeared so good because, in comparison to 4e, they were doing very well. However, 5e sales are so much greater than 4e's (or, let's be honest, any other E's for decades) that PF 2 doesn't look as spectacular as PF 1's did at the time?

IOW, could it be that PF 2 is selling about the same as PF 1 did, but, because the bar is so different now, it gives a completely different sense this time around?

On my preferred RPG site, RPGGeek, there seems to be zero interest in the new edition. There are a large number of PF1 PBFs currently running, with new games starting up every month. I think I've seen 1 PF2 PBF start up since it was released.

Of course, this is only one website and I'm not sure how PF1 was doing at this stage of its life cycle, but I'd be surprised if interest was as muted as it currently seems for the new edition. I mean, interest is pretty muted here too, isn't it? The 1e Paizo boards also seem more active than their 2e counterparts.

 

[BryonD]

That is not what I was suggesting either. I was simply responding to this comment by you: "I doubt it is that. It is tied to purchase events, not shipping dates. " Which was made in response to Teitan telling you it is tied to shipping dates (after also saying he works at Amazon). What I wanted you to accept as a possibilty is that it is related to shipping dates, not purchase dates. However, with that information, items being delayed do covid-19 does have an impact on the sales ranking. We just don't know how much.

Well, we do know that the site is promising delivery dates that are within a week, rather than a standard 2 day. So that would be a 4 to 5 day lag. That is meaningless to a dropoff that is well over a month old.

 

[Porridge]

The 1e Paizo boards also seem more active than their 2e counterparts.

There’s no question that the PF1 forum on Paizo is still active. But there are more active threads and more new posts in the PF2 forum.

(Just to be clear, I don’t take this to mean anything regarding the success or lack thereof of PF2. After all, it would be very surprising if this wasn’t the case, regardless of how well PF2 was doing in objective terms.)

 

[teitan]

Well, we do know that the site is promising delivery dates that are within a week, rather than a standard 2 day. So that would be a 4 to 5 day lag. That is meaningless to a dropoff that is well over a month old.

As I pointed out, it is not trustworthy because so many other items are being ordered that don't usually hit the radar. The volumes of those items are eclipsing normal sales volumes. The time the drop off for both D&D and P2 coincide with Amazon's announcement of prioritizing essential items. People are ordering the essential items (our stock went from around 1800 when this started to 2400) driving up sales on those types of items. I'm not trying to be rude but the sky is not falling.

 

[dave2008]

Well, we do know that the site is promising delivery dates that are within a week, rather than a standard 2 day. So that would be a 4 to 5 day lag. That is meaningless to a dropoff that is well over a month old.

That is an assumption (several actually) I do not feel is wise to make. No that it really matters of course.

 

[darjr]

Even if the change in sales rank is wholly due to sales, it is STILL fantastic numbers. I dint see the reason for any doom and gloom.

 

[BryonD]

As I pointed out, it is not trustworthy because so many other items are being ordered that don't usually hit the radar. The volumes of those items are eclipsing normal sales volumes. The time the drop off for both D&D and P2 coincide with Amazon's announcement of prioritizing essential items. People are ordering the essential items (our stock went from around 1800 when this started to 2400) driving up sales on those types of items. I'm not trying to be rude but the sky is not falling.

I agree with these points. I have not said the sky is falling and I have already agreed that other items are spiking which would change the rating of an item even if the units/week stayed constant.

But a lag of a few days is not the factor.

 

[BryonD]

That is an assumption (several actually) I do not feel is wise to make. No that it really matters of course.

shrug. OK. Why engage in the conversation?
There is nothing I'm assuming here that is a bigger uncertainty than any other speculation in the thread long before we ever heard of Covid-19.

Seriously, you seem fixated on me being wrong without any regard to anything else. Which is flattering I guess.

 

[teitan]

For perspective here is the ranking for Starfinder as of the moment I post this, which is considered a success but is at 26k on Amazon’s rankings.

 

[teitan]

And the Lost Omens World Guide