Rules Questions Regarding Alchemical Fire

[javcs]

Well, strictly speaking, bows and slings don't deal damage either - their ammunition does.

That said, I do agree with you.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Well, strictly speaking, bows and slings don't deal damage either - their ammunition does.

Check the weapons tables in the PHB and A&EG, read the Enlarge Person spell, and get back to me

-Hyp.

 

[javcs]

Damage is based off of weapon size .. the larger the bow firing, the more damage, I know.
But, depending on just how strictly (read: anally) you read it, somebody could interpert the weapon tables as implying you don't need arrows to deal damage with a bow. Not that I think that's right.

Although I agree with you on the Gnomish Calculus and Weapon Spec, it is possible that parallels could be drawn between Sneak Attack damage with a flask of Alchemist's Fire and Weapon Spec with a Gnomish Calculus.

 

[moritheil]

It's a conceptual problem that arises from the (percieved) inability to make a precision attack with a splash attack.

 

[starwed]

Isn't there a feat in Races of the Wild which improves thrown weapons? (I guess it might have just been reprinted in PHB2).

 

[atomn]

I'd check out the Master Thrower PrC from C. War. It has some neat tricks that would work well with your idea. Also, the Cragtop Archer from Races of Stone might be appealing, although I don't think it's worth it (just gives a better range).

 

[asnys]

By the way, once you have him statted out, could you post him? It's a very unique idea, I'd like to see what feats, etc you settle on!

Unfortunately, Erla the Mad Anarchist Dwarf died in the first session. The result of some well-prepared, well-fortified kobolds. Here is what I was aiming at, though:

Erla the Mad Anarchist Dwarf Rog-1

STR: 13 DEX: 16 CON: 12
INT: 14 WIS: 10 CHA: 6

(25 point buy)

Attacks:

Longspear +1 melee 1d8+1 (20x3)
Short Sword +1 melee 1d6+1 (19-20x2)
Alchemist's Fire +3 ranged 1d6 (+1d6 next round) (splash 5': 1)


Feats: Magical Training
SA: Darkvision 60', Sneak Attack +1d6

The idea was that she would roughly alternate fighter and rogue levels. At next level the longspear would have been replaced by a glaive, so she could sit behind her dwarven defender brother with the tower shield and trip whoever was in front of him. At 12th level she would have looked like this:

Erla the Mad Anarchist Dwarf Ftr-6/Rog-6

STR: 13 DEX: 19 CON: 12
INT: 14 WIS: 10 CHA: 6

Attacks:

Glaive +11 / +6 melee 1d10+1 (20x3)
Short Sword +11 / +6 melee 1d6+1 (19-20x2)
Alchemist's Fire +15 / +10 ranged 1d6+1 (+1d6+1 next round, or +2d6+1 if hit by another flask since then) (splash 5': 2)


Feats: Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Gnomish Calculus), Grenadier, Improved Trip, Mad Alchemist, Magical Training, Point-Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Quick Draw, Rapid Shot
SA: Darkvision 60', Evasion, Sneak Attack +3d6

 

[RigaMortus2]

If I took 2 levels in Bloodstorm Blade (PrC from ToB) I would get the Thunderous Throw ability which allows me to treat ranged attack rolls (from thrown weapons) as melee attacks. It also specifically allows you to apply your Str bonus to damage, as well as the use of the Power Attack feat.

If I threw Alchemist Fire at an enemy and took a -5 to hit for a +5 damage from Power Attack, would just the initial damage deal the +5 from Power Attack, or would it also carry over to the Splash Damage (which would be sweet!)???

 

[RigaMortus2]

Please? Just curious... Would like to know answer if anyone knows...

 

[atomn]

Unfortunately, Erla the Mad Anarchist Dwarf died in the first session. The result of some well-prepared, well-fortified kobolds.

Those filty kobolds! Looked like a good build to me!