"Rules: Saiyans" by Anubis

[Anubis]

How about to give him (this goes outside the series) 30 more character levels in Saiyan Elite (how is that class done for levels over 20? What feats do he get etc etc) and make him Super Saiyan 3, is he high enough to have the equipment then?

Check teh ELH for rules for class levels over 20. Saiyan Warriors over Level 20 gain a bonus feat every four levels and currently use the Saiyan Elite feat list. Saiyan Elites over Level 20 continue to gain a bonus feat every four levels as normal.

Even with 100 class levels, Vegeta wouldn't come close to the equipment I gave him before.

hmm Anubis, at what level would Vegeta need to be to have that equipment you gave him first? I liked that Vegeta *smiles*.

He would need to have an ECL of 2,636! By the way, that would be CR 90, in case you're wondering, and he would be one of the most powerful beings in the universe.

 

[Glorfindel]

ECL 2,636, sounds cool, but I think I would need alot more character sheets =)

 

[Anubis]

Update - October 2, 2002:

I posted some errata that makes the various levels of Super Saiyan more powerful. Simply put, there wasn't enough of a difference between the first three Super Saiyan levels, so I fixed it. I updated all information in the main post to reflect the changes.

 

[Glorfindel]

Oh so Then what would Vegetas stats be?
Will you update them, or would you like me to do it and post them a new?

 

[Glorfindel]

Anubis, I have started with Goku now, are you shore he should be 110 mnk? his base speed is 310-320 feet and when he goes to Super Saiyan 3 it goes to 1240-1280 feet thats when he walks.
Although seeing it here it would be kinda cool =))

 

[Anubis]

Oh so Then what would Vegetas stats be?
Will you update them, or would you like me to do it and post them a new?

Ah, you can go ahead and do it. I have another update that goofs it up even further, making Vegeta invalid as he is.

Anubis, I have started with Goku now, are you shore he should be 110 mnk? his base speed is 310-320 feet and when he goes to Super Saiyan 3 it goes to 1240-1280 feet thats when he walks.
Although seeing it here it would be kinda cool =))

Wow! But yeah, that would be right.

 

[Anubis]

Update - October 3, 2002:

I posted some major errata. The CR has been lowered to reflect Saiyans' actual power, and ECL has been powered along with it. In addition, I had to change the prerequisites for the Saiyan Elite Epic Prestige Class.

 

[Glorfindel]

Oki I will try to re-make him today if I don`t DM.
I`ll keep all feats and such only some stats change and ECL I guess.

Will try to make Goku after that.

I hope I can post him today

 

[Glorfindel]

Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta: hp 3263; Init +44; Spd 180 ft.; AC 141 (touch 101, flat-footed 110); BAB 21 (+15 Epic); Atk +91/+88/+85/+82/+79/+76/+73/+70/+67/+64/+61/+58 melee (1d20+45, unarmed strike); SA Monk abilities, smite 2/day; SQ Power adaptation, monk abilities, damage reduction 150/+15, evasion, fortified body, fortified blood, wholeness of body (20), fortified soul, improved evasion, abundant step, mettle; SR 90; AL LE; SV Fort +112, Ref +114, Will +93; Str 70 (80), Dex 62 (82), Con 68 (78), Int 30, Wis 30, Cha 26.


This is the first draft, the ECL and CR issent changed but the rest I think is done right,his Super Saiyan 1 stats dosen`t change at all, and the only thing on Vegeta himself is that he gets more skill points.

Is this right Anubis?

 

[Glorfindel]

Oki, I`m done with the new stats,, ehum well, Vegeta in his "natural" form and his Super Saiyan 1 form isen`t changed at all =) But his Super Saiyan 2 is.

Vegeta: Male Saiyan SjW20/SjE50; ECL 115, CR 44; Medium-Size Shapechanger; HD 8d8+20d8+50d10+1092+159; hp 1764; Init +24; Spd 60 ft.; AC 75 (touch 55, flat-footed 59); BAB 21 (+15 Epic); Atk +71/+68/+65/+62/+59 melee (1d20+25, unarmed strike); SA Monk abilities, smite 2/day; SQ Power adaptation, monk abilities, damage reduction 30/+6, evasion, fortified body, fortified blood, wholeness of body (20), fortified soul, improved evasion, abundant step, mettle; SR 50; AL LE; SV Fort +62, Ref +64, Will +48; Str 30 (40), Dex 22 (42), Con 28 (38), Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 6.

Skills and Feats: Balance 18 (+36), Bluff 19 (+17), Diplomacy 0 (+0), Intimidate 20 (+20), Jump 18 (+35), Knowledge (fighting) 51 (+51), Knowledge (ki) 51 (+51), Tumble 51 (+71); Saiyan's Toughness, Improved Initiative, Great Fortitude, Endurance, Energy Manipulation, Conceal Ki, Tail Weakness Immunity, Point Blank Shot, Penetrate Damage Reduction, Control Oozaru Form, Rapid Shot, Superior Initiative, Energy Ball, Iron Will, Epic Endurance, Ki Focus, Ki Blast, Energy Explosion, Manyshot, Epic Saiyan's Toughness, Detect Ki, Epic Fortitude, Greater Ki Focus, Improved Energy Ball, Epic Will, Epic Dodge, Great Smiting, Improved Ki Blast, Improved Energy Explosion, Toughness, Epic Energy Manipulation, Remain Conscious, Empower Ki, Improved Manyshot, Great Constitution, Epic Energy Ball, Great Wisdom, Epic Ki Blast, Great Constitution, Epic Energy Explosion, Great Dexterity, Enhance Ki, Improved Ki Strike, Epic Ki Focus, Improved Ki Strike, Dwarf’s Toughness.

Possessions: Vegeta’s Outfit (AC +20 armor, Save +5 resistance, Str +10 enhancement, Con +10 enhancement, “Haste” continuous; 8,170,000 gp cost), Gloves of Mighty Fists +10 (6,000,000 gp cost), Vegeta’s Boots (Dex +20 enhancement, Attack +10 luck, “Expeditious Retreat” continuous; 9,004,000 gp cost), Ring of Universal Elemental Immunity (2,160,000 gp cost), Ring of Protection +10 (2,000,000 gp cost). Total Wealth: 38,478,025 gp.

Super Saiyan Vegeta: hp 2755; Init +34; Spd 120 ft.; AC 116 (touch 86, flat-footed 90); BAB 21 (+15 Epic); Atk +81/+78/+75/+72/+69/+66/+63/+60/+57/+54/+51/+48 melee (1d20+35, unarmed strike); SA Monk abilities, smite 2/day; SQ Power adaptation, monk abilities, damage reduction 70/+7, evasion, fortified body, fortified blood, wholeness of body (20), fortified soul, improved evasion, abundant step, mettle; SR 70; AL LE; SV Fort +87, Ref +89, Will +68; Str 50 (60), Dex 42 (62), Con 48 (58), Int 20, Wis 20, Cha 16.

Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta: hp 3263; Init +44; Spd 180 ft.; AC 141 (touch 101, flat-footed 110); BAB 21 (+15 Epic); Atk +91/+88/+85/+82/+79/+76/+73/+70/+67/+64/+61/+58 melee (1d20+45, unarmed strike); SA Monk abilities, smite 2/day; SQ Power adaptation, monk abilities, damage reduction 150/+15, evasion, fortified body, fortified blood, wholeness of body (heal 140hp per day), fortified soul, improved evasion, abundant step, mettle; SR 90; AL LE; SV Fort +112, Ref +114, Will +93; Str 70 (80), Dex 62 (82), Con 68 (78), Int 30, Wis 30, Cha 26.
Death Door: 436

The Super Saiyan 3 and 4 stats is made when Vegeta is at lvl 100 (Saiyan Warrior 20/ Saiyan Elite 80). With a kinda meager feat selection, just wanted to pump him up =)
Note that Vegeta never attains the Super Saiyan 3 in the series and by Anubis estimation only reachs to lvl 80 (SaiW20/SaiE60) by the end of the GT series, I made the stats (with the rules writen by Anubis) for fun and for people who might want to use him in there games =)

Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta: hp 7123; Init +59; Spd 240 ft.; AC 201 (touch 141, flat-footed 150); BAB 21 (+30 Epic); Atk +126/+123/+120/+117/+114/+111/+108/+105/+102/+99/+96/+93 melee (1d20+45, unarmed strike); SA Monk abilities, smite 2/day; SQ Power adaptation, monk abilities, damage reduction 310/+31, evasion, fortified body, fortified blood, wholeness of body (heal 200hp per day), fortified soul, improved evasion, abundant step, mettle; SR 130; AL LE; SV Fort +194, Ref +184, Will +163; Str 110 (120), Dex 109 (119), Con 121 (131), Int 50, Wis 50, Cha 46.
Extra feats: Giant's Toughness, Dragon's Toughness, Epic Toughness, Improved Epic Toughness, Great ConstitutionX13. 17 feats in all
Death Door: 1480

Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta: hp 11973; Init +104; Spd 720 ft.; AC 261 (touch 211, flat-footed 230); BAB 21 (+30 Epic); Atk +171/+168/+165/+162/+159/+156/+153/+150/+147/+144/+141/+138 melee (1d20+105, unarmed strike); SA Monk abilities, smite 2/day; SQ Power adaptation, monk abilities, damage reduction 630/+63, evasion, fortified body, fortified blood, wholeness of body (heal 200hp per day), fortified soul, improved evasion, abundant step, mettle; SR 210; AL LE; SV Fort +318, Ref +314, Will +260; Str 190 (200), Dex 189 (209), Con 201 (211), Int 90, Wis 90, Cha 86.
Extra feats: Giant's Toughness, Dragon's Toughness, Epic Toughness, Improved Epic Toughness, Great ConstitutionX13. 17 feats in all
Death Door: 1800