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[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I'm thinking more about what we often see in class design.a lot of folks seem to want to drag SD back toward 5E in that regard, and I think it usually ends up not working.

I think it can work in a modular form -- the 3E Unearthed Arcana is still my gold standard for sets of optional rules. I think the trouble comes when someone presents their set of all their rules as a single piece and as "fixing" Shadowdark.

My dude, just go play 5E at that point.

 

[Scribe]

I'm thinking more about what we often see in class design.a lot of folks seem to want to drag SD back toward 5E in that regard, and I think it usually ends up not working.

I haven't looked at a ton of other classes, I think it's a sign of Kelsey being just a better designer than I could hope to be, because some of her classes are essentially perfect to me.

People trying to do more are going to complicate things and lose sight of what makes SD so clean.

All imo of course.

 

[Reynard]

I haven't looked at a ton of other classes, I think it's a sign of Kelsey being just a better designer than I could hope to be, because some of her classes are essentially perfect to me.

People trying to do more are going to complicate things and lose sight of what makes SD so clean.

All imo of course.

I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[Scribe]

Its interesting to me from just a class design, as thats where we see the most variety, the various levers being pulled.

Compare Fighter.

All Weapons, All Armor
1d8
Hauler (Gear Slots)
Weapon Mastery (Attack/Damage by Level)
Grit (Ability Checks)
Talent 4 (Durability)

To Pit Fighter (Cursed Scroll 2)

All Weapons, Leather Armor, Shield
1d8
Flourish (per day, +hp)
Implacable (Ability Checks)
Last Stand (Passive, Durability)
Relentless (per day, Durability)
Talent 1 (per day, Durability)

To Duelist (Cursed Scroll 6)

Dagger, Swords, Leather Armor, Mithril Chain
1d8
Parry (per day, Durability)
Tale Spinner (Ability Checks)
Taunt (passive, Attacks)
Talent 1 (per day, Durability)
Talent 4 (passive, Damage)

The Fighter, imo, is easily the most simple, and for what its meant to do, when you look at Weapon Mastery and Hauler? Even though Pit Fighter is more complex, and Duelist depends on getting a couple of talent rolls, I'd still rate Fighter as the more solid design.

Which isnt to say the other classes are bad at all, but I look at Fighter and I think 'yeah thats exactly what this game needs out of a Fighter.'

I still think Ranger is sublime but yeah, I really like the design on some of these classes. Monk is another one thats great.

 

[Scribe]

Oh, and Casters seem to (I would have to double check) get 'one thing', maybe another one via a Talent, and then the spell list. Which is fine, but I've never been a caster guy.

 

[Mannahnin]

Anyone know where I can find some free mini dungeons? I suppose I could make some but I'm lazy.

Use the rolling method in the book. it takes less than 30 minutes per dungeon.

If you want "good maps", swipe a @Dyson Logos map with the right number of chambers and drop the dice onto that map, pushing them into the closes room.

Dyson also has some free stocked dungeons and adventures on his site, in addition to Dyson's Delve. Of them I've run Goblin Gully and Burial Mound of Esur the Red, which are short ones, and they've both been fun.

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