D&D (2024) Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?

Just a thought, but given they are still legal & from a PHB, but not in the 2024 PHB, should they s

  • Yes

    Votes: 102 48.6%
  • No

    Votes: 81 38.6%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 14 6.7%
  • Other explained in comments

    Votes: 13 6.2%

My only quibble with this would be "late 19th century"! Or perhaps Edwardian.
I'm thinking of Tolkien's own statement that he was "in fact a Hobbit in all but size." His earliest experiences of the West Midlands, which he undoubtedly drew upon in his depiction of hobbits and the Shire, began as early as 1895 when his family moved to Birmingham and then to Sarehole in 1896, but I think of him primarily as a man of the 20th century. I think Edwardian is right on the money, but late Victorian seems appropriate too.
 

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* The reason gnomes and half-races don't exist on Mystara is that the overwhelming majority of the setting was made for Basic D&D and these races didn't have playable stats until the line made its ill-fated jump to AD&D. There is a debate on if that should count. Gnomes and orcs did exist as monsters only in both Mystara and Cerilia though.
Technically don't playable gnomes slip into Mystara due to Top Balista? I don't think said flying mechanical city ever showed up again, but the implication I got was that it was wherever you wanted it to be in there.
 



Technically don't playable gnomes slip into Mystara due to Top Balista? I don't think said flying mechanical city ever showed up again, but the implication I got was that it was wherever you wanted it to be in there.
It gets a little weird when you start including Gazetteer and Dragon Mag articles into the mix. Orcs and gnomes did get PC stats, but they were primarily viewed as "monsters" first and foremost. Gnomes are listed next to gremlins and sphinx, orcs alongside other evil humanoids (goblins and ogres).

Yes, Mystara is the original home of "I'm a monster! Rawr!" Gnomes...
 


It'll be underpowered or overpowered depending on how you do it.

Those 2014 races were not designed in the same paradigm as the 2024 species. Almost every other non-setting-specific species has either been converted over to the new paradigm in a new PHB or MOTM.
Ah, see I'm happy just fixing what doesn't work for me myself, and would be fine with using 5.0 as a basis for that. I don't take WotC's design work as gospel.
 

It gets a little weird when you start including Gazetteer and Dragon Mag articles into the mix. Orcs and gnomes did get PC stats, but they were primarily viewed as "monsters" first and foremost. Gnomes are listed next to gremlins and sphinx, orcs alongside other evil humanoids (goblins and ogres).
The Creature Crucible 3 are their own weird little segment because, sure, you got sphinges in there, but just the same you've also got downright regular re-occurring ones like Pixies and Centaurs from Tall Tales, and Aquatic Elves and Tritons from Sea Peoples which, I reckon most people would agree they don't really count on the monster side
 

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