D&D (2024) Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?

[W'rkncacnter]

Like minotaurs mentally being immune to the maze spell and being naturally mentally able to solve puzzles .

well the problem there would be that it goes completely against the myth the minotaur is based on

 

[Minigiant]

well the problem there would be that it goes completely against the myth the minotaur is based on

Well it's fantasy so it's a reverse minotaur. Like reverse vampires.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Well it's fantasy so it's a reverse minotaur. Like reverse vampires.

Lisa would be so proud!

 

[Not a Decepticon]

No, if you want to call a 40 or 45 year old human "young" because it fits with how you conceptualize young adulthood, that's fine. You wouldn't be alone. I just don't think a 50 year old hobbit being at the end of young adulthood is that different from a 40 year old human being at the end of young adulthood.

ETA: Personally, I was taken aback by you calling Frodo at 50 "young" because I think of Bilbo and Frodo at that age as entering middle age.

And the eay I readi it, 50 is mor like 25 and I think ypu are literally contriving arguments to still preenfs Hobbits are just humans...oh wait, the goalpost shifted to "not tat ifferent". Every bs to keep the lie of humanocentrist perspective going, right?

 

[Hriston]

And the eay I readi it, 50 is mor like 25 and I think ypu are literally contriving arguments to still preenfs Hobbits are just humans...oh wait, the goalpost shifted to "not tat ifferent". Every bs to keep the lie of humanocentrist perspective going, right?

I think you might be confusing me with someone else. My issue is with the connotation carried by your characterization of 50 year old hobbits as "young". I'm not making an argument that hobbits are "just humans". They're obviously described as a distinct population with qualities that set them apart from other members of the race of Men. In the novels, however, they serve as viewpoint characters that have an outlook and culture that many 20th century human readers would find quite familiar.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Well it's fantasy so it's a reverse minotaur. Like reverse vampires.

Do they cheerfully prance around in daylight, pumping extra blood into people?

 

[Not a Decepticon]

I think you might be confusing me with someone else. My issue is with the connotation carried by your characterization of 50 year old hobbits as "young". I'm not making an argument that hobbits are "just humans". They're obviously described as a distinct population with qualities that set them apart from other members of the race of Men. In the novels, however, they serve as viewpoint characters that have an outlook and culture that many 20th century human readers would find quite familiar.

The entire argument started from claim that adventuring parties need humans to be relatable, with Fellowship of the Ring being tangled into it. I pointed out neither of two humans in Fellowship is much relatable, while Hobbits are and serve as POW characters. This has been meet with a series of claims that Hobbits in Middle Earth are just Men, unlike Elves and Dwarves, who are separate species. In the back and forth I brought up topic of Hobbits clearly having longer life-span, which somehow devolved into arguments that Hoobbits in their 50's are the same as middle-aged humans. If I confused people, sorry, arguing with whole bunch of folks does that sometimes. I'm glad you at least agree Hobbits don't need to be humans to be relatable to the audience.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

if you want to call a 40 or 45 year old human "young"

Yes, please!

 

[Maxperson]

They fid feel redundant enough to be merged into just Orc in 2024 PHB,didn't thry?

Quote me where they said that was the reason.

 

[Vaalingrade]

What's wrong with mental advantages?

Observe:

So it would not be a problem if a half elf natural got proficiency with Deception, Intimidation or Persuasion.

Ah, so all half elves are naturally manipulative liars. I see.