D&D (2024) Should 2024D&D split skills into two categories*

[bedir than]

Isn't most of the variance in "power" for skills really just variance in table?

I've seen nearly zero Athletics used at my table with 100s of Charisma checks with its typical skills

 

[Mistwell]

Investigation and Persuasion are skills we just about every session. We rarely use survival. I think this is just one of those "every table is different" sorts of things.

 

[Yaarel]

Investigation and Persuasion are skills we just about every session. We rarely use survival. I think this is just one of those "every table is different" sorts of things.

Which skill does your group use for navigating and directions as such?

 

[Mistwell]

Which skill does your group use for navigating and directions as such?

It doesn't come up very often. We are using digital maps and we just say "we go that way" and then we go that way

 

[Argyle King]

Grapple and shove are now a saving throw.

So Athletics and Acrobatics have been demoted to "secondary".

Grapple is a saving throw?

I haven't been following the updates very closely.

 

[mellored]

Grapple is a saving throw?

I haven't been following the updates very closely.

Yup.

Str + 8 + prof
Vs
Str or Dex save, whichever you want.

So you can't use expertise Athletics to auto-grapple someone.

Escaping is still Athletics or Acrobatics. So you can still auto-escape, but it takes an Action, so not exactly cheap.

 

[Horwath]

Yup.

Str + 8 + prof
Vs
Str or Dex save, whichever you want.

So you can't use expertise Athletics to auto-grapple someone.

Escaping is still Athletics or Acrobatics. So you can still auto-escape, but it takes an Action, so not exactly cheap.

yeah, one good usage of skill in combat and they managed to ruin that also.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

yeah, one good usage of skill in combat and they managed to ruin that also.

Nope. Fixed it.

 

[Horwath]

Nope. Fixed it.

how is that fixed?

 

[UngeheuerLich]

how is that fixed?

Because bards are not the best grapplers anymore.

And you can use it on opportunity attacks now, giving fighters a lot more battlefield control.