Sneak attack and Wildshape

[Kylas]

Got into a tiff with my DM so I wanted to get a few clarifications about Sneak Attacking druids.

1. a. When an animal entry says 2 hooves or 4 claws does that mean (in the case of the latter) you roll 4 d20 rolls with the one attack bonus? If I'm flankng with a buddy does this mean my druid gets sneak attack for all claw attacks that hit.

1. b. I assume the answer is the same for iterative attacks i.e. 2 claws, 1 bite or full attack in human form.

2. If I'm hidden in tiger form and I pounce do I add sneak attack for all my claw attacks?


I would also appreciate sources to show my DM but if it's all implied that's cool.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

1. a. I don't know of any animals w/ 4 hoof attacks, but yes...You get 4 seperate attack rolls in that case, and all would add SA if you meet the conditions for it.
1.b. Yes. This isn't 2E's backstab. You can SA on every attack of a full attack. That said, invisibility and hiding goes away after the first attack, typically. If you're flanking or the foe has not acted yet in the combat, all your attacks are sneak attacks.

2. As noted above, hiding is usually only good for a single attack, and after that you'd lose your stealth, so the enemy would not be flatfooted. If you pounced into a flank or if the foe had not acted yet, you coudl in fact full attack SA him.

As far as sources, I don't know any off the top of my head, but sneak attack uses the word "whenever" to describe when you get SA if you catch your foe unprepared/flanked.

So...Druid/Rogue...you got the Savage Grapple feat, I hope.

 

[Theroc]

Got into a tiff with my DM so I wanted to get a few clarifications about Sneak Attacking druids.

1. a. When an animal entry says 2 hooves or 4 claws does that mean (in the case of the latter) you roll 4 d20 rolls with the one attack bonus? If I'm flankng with a buddy does this mean my druid gets sneak attack for all claw attacks that hit.

1. b. I assume the answer is the same for iterative attacks i.e. 2 claws, 1 bite or full attack in human form.

2. If I'm hidden in tiger form and I pounce do I add sneak attack for all my claw attacks?


I would also appreciate sources to show my DM but if it's all implied that's cool.

Never did this with a druid, but in a game with a shapeshifting homebrew-type race, I had a level 3 rogue who could turn into a Leopard.

I got 5 attacks on a flanking pounce, only two blows hit(I'd been strength damaged), but managed 24 damage, enough to kill my victim twice over.

As far as I am aware, my DM is pretty good as his job, and no one has disagreed with what happened.

For 2. Only the first(unless you caught them flatfooted)

I don't know of any real 'sources' that would say this outright, besides putting 2 and 2 together from the rules.

Sneak attacks are added to each attack during a BAB if each attack qualifies. It stands to reason if a natural attack qualified, it would also recieve a SA dice.

 

[irdeggman]

RAW source for sneak attack on all attacks meeting the requisites:

Rules Compendium pg 42

Under Precision Damage (which includes sneak attacks as well as sudden strike and skirmish)

Precision damage applies on any attack that meets the requirements of the ability that grants the damage. This includes multiple attacks made during a full attack. If conditions somehow change between attacks, attacks that no longer meet the ability's requirements can't deal precision damage.

A form of attack tha enables an attacker to make multiple attacks during an action other than a full-round action, such as the Many shot feat (standard action) or a quickened scorching ray (swift action), allows precision damage to be applied only to the first attack in the group.

 

[Kylas]

RAW source for sneak attack on all attacks meeting the requisites:

Rules Compendium pg 42

Under Precision Damage (which includes sneak attacks as well as sudden strike and skirmish)

Thanks everyone, this is perfect.