D&D (2024) Rogues can now Sneak Attack with all thrown weapons - Tridents, Spears, Handaxes, they all work!

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So, is it both a ranged weapon and a melee weapon there?
I don't own the book, but this is from D&D Beyond:

Hoopak Martial Melee Weapon Cost: 1 gp Damage: 1d6 piercing (melee) or 1d4 bludgeoning (ranged) Weight: 2 lb.

Properties: Ammunition (range 40/160), finesse, special, two-handed

A hoopak is a sturdy stick with a sling at one end and a pointed tip at the other.

Special. When you make a melee attack with this weapon, you ignore its ammunition property. You can use the hoopak as a martial ranged weapon.
 

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My problem is that trident = okay, but greatsword and glaive = not okay. I want some consistency. Either let them all work, or keep the big, unwieldy stuff off limits. They should pick a lane.
They need to get out of the enforced flavor obsession they've had for the rogue for the last two decades and just let everything SA.

Then let all the designers know that sort of thing is not cool and hasn't been since it started.
 

I don't own the book, but this is from D&D Beyond:

Hoopak Martial Melee Weapon Cost: 1 gp Damage: 1d6 piercing (melee) or 1d4 bludgeoning (ranged) Weight: 2 lb.

Properties: Ammunition (range 40/160), finesse, special, two-handed

A hoopak is a sturdy stick with a sling at one end and a pointed tip at the other.

Special. When you make a melee attack with this weapon, you ignore its ammunition property. You can use the hoopak as a martial ranged weapon.
I altered your bolded portion to highlight what I think is the most important part of that. No other melee weapon with the range property has that language that I am aware of. It's definitely a case of specific beats general.
 

They need to get out of the enforced flavor obsession they've had for the rogue for the last two decades and just let everything SA.

Then let all the designers know that sort of thing is not cool and hasn't been since it started.
I don't have a problem with that. It turns sneak attack into opportunistic attack. It would no longer be about precision and would be about being in a situation where you gain advantage or an ally is distracting the enemy.
 

I don't have a problem with that. It turns sneak attack into opportunistic attack. It would no longer be about precision and would be about being in a situation where you gain advantage or an ally is distracting the enemy.
I mean it could still be about precision, just fantastic precision. Like actually letting a martial do non-magical fantasy for once in the decade.
 

I mean it could still be about precision, just fantastic precision. Like actually letting a martial do non-magical fantasy for once in the decade.
They kill dragons with pieces of metal that would be less to the dragon than a push pin would be to us. They face giants who would smash them to a pulp with even a glancing blow, except they take hit after hit and dish it back.

I understand the desire to give the martials more, and I agree with it, but they already do lots of non-magical fantasy.
 

I hope this is not seen as a drive-by post, but especially the beginning of this thread reminded me very much of the "is 0,999... to endless = 1 yes or no" discussions back in the day.

Spoiler: yes.
 


I hope this is not seen as a drive-by post, but especially the beginning of this thread reminded me very much of the "is 0,999... to endless = 1 yes or no" discussions back in the day.

Spoiler: yes.
And the silly thing is: there is absolutely nothing to discuss. As the answer is mathematically cristal clear.
 

Not in 5e - you always round down.
Wrong. There is nothing to round down. It is exactly 1. As was proved by Leonard Euler for example centuries ago.

Also: There is no way, you could get this number by dividing natural numbers. So the question is moot.
 
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