D&D (2024) So IS it a new edition?

[mamba]

I'm going to generally agree, with some expansion in this.

The "... Of everything" books are the ones that have the least compatibility and probably will be first to be redone and then abandoned.

sure, they fell under the character options part. They will be redone in 2 to 3 years as the first 2024 of Everything book and whatever did not make it in is dead for good

Monsters of the Multiverse will probably see some of the races/species redone, but I feel the monsters part will remain viable for a while.

curious about that one myself... would not mind an update similar to the MM for the monsters if they do a new version, but I can also see the races going to the 'of Everything' book

As to everything else, I do not expect updated versions, there might be a new FR setting book however

 

[Maxperson]

At best, you have the two PC option books, a few species and one and a half- setting books in need of revision. That's still a goodly chuck of 5e that works fine with 5.24.

Breaking news! @Remathilis says to chuck 5e! You heard here first, folks. 5e is no good and needs to be chucked.

 

[Daztur]

when it comes to character options, I agree, I see no reason why e.g. Curse of Strahd or Tomb of Annihilation would not work with 2024 however, without any changes that go beyond what you have to do anyway (encounter balance for your party)

Yup, modules are by far the easiest thing to convert from one edition to another. Like I said upthread I once ran a 0e adventure for two 5e players converting a few things (like saving throws) on the fly but leaving basically everything else intact. Level drain scared the crap out of my players and was great fun (I let them get greater restoration castings in the town to heal level drain). If you can run 0e adventures with 5e, not reason you can't run 5e adventures with 5.5e.

I'm going to generally agree, with some expansion in this.

The "... Of everything" books are the ones that have the least compatibility and probably will be first to be redone and then abandoned.

Monsters of the Multiverse will probably see some of the races/species redone, but I feel the monsters part will remain viable for a while.

Most of the setting books vary. Sword Coast and Eberron could really use a mechanical update. Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Spelljammer and Planescape all will work fine enough with the new book. I don't think there is enough drive to redo Ravnica, Strixhaven and Theros. Wildmount is it's own beast.

Most of the other supplements (like the Guides to Dragons and Giants or the Book of Many Things) are perfectly fine. Monster design was already improving by the time those books came and the subs should still work with minimal fuss...

And the modules and anthologies will work fine with a few fixes here and there, assuming you're using the new MM.

At best, you have the two PC option books, a few species and one and a half- setting books in need of revision. That's still a goodly chuck of 5e that works fine with 5.24.

For me, I expect a lot of 5e pbh content to go out the window first, with a lot of 5e splatbook content slowly petering out in 5.5e tables over the next two years with 5e adventures getting used the longest. I'm wondering what will happen with the 5e holdouts and how many of them there'll be. There won't be the same kind of backlash as there was to 4e (5.5e is too conservative to that so instead of incandescent rage there's more "why bother?") and there does't look like there'll be the same dominant third party 5e successor like PF 1e succeeded 3.5e.

My bet is on a lot of smaller third party spin-off games slowly slowly chipping away at 5.*e dominance much in the way that a lot of third party d20 core games started to proliferate in the 3.5e-era when fewer third party publishers were putting out supplements to 3.5e and more and more were doing their own d20 spin-off games, but with a lot more 5e holdouts than there ever were 3e holdouts, but how many is anyone's guess.

Although completely mixing and matching stuff is certainly POSSIBLE with 5e and 5.5e I just don't see it being something that most DMs allow much of after we get some 5.5e splatbooks. I certainly see any talk of backwards compatibility being completely shelved come 2026 or so.

 

[Remathilis]

Although completely mixing and matching stuff is certainly POSSIBLE with 5e and 5.5e I just don't see it being something that most DMs allow much of after we get some 5.5e splatbooks. I certainly see any talk of backwards compatibility being completely shelved come 2026 or so.

I imagine the inverse will be true for 14 holdouts who don't want to go to 24. Adventures will mostly be compatible, with minor changes to some terminology. Monsters will still work well enough. Settings and supplements will still be fine, and player options will be the least compatible (depending on specifics).

 

[Micah Sweet]

It will remain 5.5 to me in my discourse, but beyond being able to discuss the two separately I just don't see that it matters.

 

[Valetudo]

5e is a much bigger success than 3 and 3.5 editions. 3rd edition didn't last that long as an edition when before they rushed 3.5 out.

 

[payn]

5e is a much bigger success than 3 and 3.5 editions. 3rd edition didn't last that long as an edition when before they rushed 3.5 out.

They didnt rush 3.5 out. It was actually planned the day they dropped 3E. Something about pumping sales right when things start to slow down was the idea. Basically, making an unaware playstyest of the fanbase.

 

[Valetudo]

Trust me, it was still rushed out.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

They didnt rush 3.5 out. It was actually planned the day they dropped 3E. Something about pumping sales right when things start to slow down was the idea. Basically, making an unaware playstyest of the fanbase.

That's not quite true. FOURTH edition (not the one we got - one that was never made) was planned the day they dropped 3e, but it was planned for a few years further down the line. They rushed to finish it, and didn't, and called it 3.5 partly because of the software parlance of the day, and partly because it was roughly halfway to where they wanted to go. Of course, all that might be apocryphal, but that's how I heard it.

 

[Valetudo]

4th edition was also rushed out and had so much errata and rules changes on the online portion.