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So, Wandavision?

TwoSix

Unserious gamer
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As for Agnes, this entire series was fully filmed and ready to go before they aired the first episode, so while the writers may have been hoping they got the expectations right, it is not like they were writing and filming this in response to all the fan theories and such, the way your post makes it sound.
That's why I feel the writing is so impressive. They weren't filming it based on the reactions they read online, they were filming it based on the reactions they predicted beforehand it would engender.
 

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DeviousQuail

Explorer
- I'm sure that Nexus commercial means a lot to those more knowledgeable in Marvel lore. I'm out of the loop so if anyone wants to share I'd appreciate it.

- We saw Dottie (Emma Caulfield) briefly. Have we seen her since episode 2?

- Snooper's gonna snoop. Just Monica or is Pietro snooping too? Or does Agatha have him completely on a chain. (It's around 31:45 in the credits)
 


MarkB

Legend
- Snooper's gonna snoop. Just Monica or is Pietro snooping too? Or does Agatha have him completely on a chain. (It's around 31:45 in the credits)
I was going to say that he seemed to be projecting Agatha's power into Monica as her eyes turn purple when she looks at him, which would make him entirely Agatha's creature, but on a second viewing I saw that her eyes actually change the moment before that, as she opens the cellar hatch and sees the purple tendrils.

For that matter, what is Pietro? Do we still assume a link to the X-Men version of the character, is he just another townsperson controlled by Agatha, or is he entirely some form of construct?

I'm still tending towards the twins being real, simply because Billy seemed to genuinely catch Agatha by surprise with his "it's quiet, inside your head" comment, which wouldn't be possible if he was purely her construct.
 

- I'm sure that Nexus commercial means a lot to those more knowledgeable in Marvel lore. I'm out of the loop so if anyone wants to share I'd appreciate it.

From one of the Easter Egg/Spoiler articles for the episode:

The commercials in WandaVision have always been crucial, usually focused on Wanda's past experience of trauma. But the one in episode 7 is particularly important, because it directly references something called a "nexus." This apparently allows an individual to anchor themselves to the reality of their choice; side effects include "feeling your feelings, confronting your truth, seizing your destiny, and possibly more depression." This is clearly a reference to the Nexus of All Realities, an established part of Marvel lore that was already subtly introduced into the MCU's Multiverse in Thor: The Dark World. In the comics, the nexus was created by an ill-thought-through spell woven in the Florida Everglades, and it became guarded by the Man-Thing.
 



DeviousQuail

Explorer
From one of the Easter Egg/Spoiler articles for the episode:

The commercials in WandaVision have always been crucial, usually focused on Wanda's past experience of trauma. But the one in episode 7 is particularly important, because it directly references something called a "nexus." This apparently allows an individual to anchor themselves to the reality of their choice; side effects include "feeling your feelings, confronting your truth, seizing your destiny, and possibly more depression." This is clearly a reference to the Nexus of All Realities, an established part of Marvel lore that was already subtly introduced into the MCU's Multiverse in Thor: The Dark World. In the comics, the nexus was created by an ill-thought-through spell woven in the Florida Everglades, and it became guarded by the Man-Thing.
Thank you.

The next time I watch Thor 2 I'll have to keep an eye out for that.
 

pukunui

Legend
OK so it seems like Wanda is still the one who created the Hex. Agatha must have sensed it or something, as she showed up almost immediately.

A review I read last night pointed out that "Agnes" is literally a shortening of Agatha Harkness.

Also, it took me a little while to figure out who the bossy guy at the circus was. He was the annoying SWORD guy who wasn't all that fond of Darcy. He's still playing to type even though the context has changed!

The glitches didn't seem all that random to me -- it looked like they were going back in time step by step through the decades, as if, left unchecked, everything would end up back in the 50s again. I hope we do get a good explanation for this decade-by-decade sitcom thing. Paul Bettany did say there was a reason for it, that it wasn't arbitrary.

It also seems like Agatha was just faking the whole thing with Vision at the edge of the Hex in the Halloween episode. She must have been trying to push him to go out of the boundary to see what would happen.
 

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MarkB

Legend
I'm getting a strong urge to re-watch the entire series and see what I can pick up in retrospect. I'll probably hold off until after next episode though.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I was avoiding spoilers all day because the internet was telling me how revealing this episode was. The reveal being that he next door neighbour is (obviously) a fellow magic user was rather underwhelming. And I don’t get what’s interesting about the much-hyped mid-credits sequence? Peter found Monica snooping? I feel like I missed something.
 


Vael

Hero
Or Mephisto. Or both. Or neither. Ralph may not exist at all and was just made up by Agatha so she would not seem weird as a single lady of her age range running around in a 50's sitcom setting.

And we still have no clue if this person in FBI Witness Protection is someone important or just a red herring/throwaway.

I'm thinking if Mephisto was going to be a factor, they'd have already been introduced. Now that Agatha is in play, I'm pretty sure she's the heavy of the piece. At best, there might be a off-hand reference, but I don't think we'll see Mephisto.
 

pukunui

Legend
And I don’t get what’s interesting about the much-hyped mid-credits sequence? Peter found Monica snooping? I feel like I missed something.
I think it’s not so much the scene itself but the fact that we’re seven episodes in and this is the first time they’ve included one.
 

And I don’t get what’s interesting about the much-hyped mid-credits sequence? Peter found Monica snooping? I feel like I missed something.

I need to watch it again to confirm, but a lot of the talk online about this scene is that Monica's eyes supposedly went purple after she opened the cellar door and saw how weird it looked inside. So it may be saying she is under Agatha's control now, instead of Wanda's or instead of being free of any control. Maybe it is hinting at a Monica vs Vision fight or something?

Edit: Just watched that again and yes, her eyes turn purple right before Pietro surprises her and are still purple when she looks at him. So that means something important in the mind control area.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
And maybe also the WandaVision intros the Fantastic Four theory? Although that one is still an option, I suppose.

That was mostly based on the "aerospace engineer" thing. Why hang on to a theory when the basic reason to have the theory has been disproven?
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
From one of the Easter Egg/Spoiler articles for the episode:

... In the comics, the nexus was created by an ill-thought-through spell woven in the Florida Everglades, and it became guarded by the Man-Thing.

I question the origin you give there - pretty much every source i find says that it is not known if it is natural or created by someone/something. It certainly wasn't created in recent history.
 

That was mostly based on the "aerospace engineer" thing. Why hang on to a theory when the basic reason to have the theory has been disproven?

I still say this is a small possibility. I do not think the actual designer/creator of the vehicle was at the site in the episode. The female major could have been this aerospace engineer whom Monica called "my guy", but more likely the engineer is still back in whatever lab they have their job. And instead of this show naming him, the FF movie may have a reference back to designing this special truck for Monica, or should I call her Spectrum now? Or it could be a different character who will show up in another movie or series and tie it back to this.
 


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