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So, Wandavision?

Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
I was avoiding spoilers all day because the internet was telling me how revealing this episode was. The reveal being that he next door neighbour is (obviously) a fellow magic user was rather underwhelming. And I don’t get what’s interesting about the much-hyped mid-credits sequence? Peter found Monica snooping? I feel like I missed something.
For those of us who didn't follow the comics it was. Remember even on this thread in our wonderful geek-haven that is ENWorld, some people haven't even watched all the MCU films, much less be familiar with the comics.

Also I don't know if I'd call the mid-credit scene "hyped" so much as "alerted" - we haven't had one and wouldn't have a reason to expect one, so the call went out to be on the lookout.
 

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Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
I also think that since they used the x-men quicksilver that maybe they are wanting to merge the x-men movies and the Marvel studio movieverse..
When they stopped Monica from going back before, they said her cells had mutated. I'm wondering if the Hex passing over people (and perhaps expanding worldwide in a later episode) isn't the event that bring mutants into the MCU now that they have the rights to do so.
 

I wonder whether we'll even have a framing 'show' next episode, or if that's all abandoned with this show's reveal. Then again, I'm no more familiar with 20teens family sitcoms than I was with this week's so it'll probably make little difference to me.

There were only 6 decade-themed episodes teased and we have had all of them now. I think things are going to get real in the final two episodes.
 

ModernApathy

Explorer
Perhaps next week will be framed from Agnes/Agatha perspective, giving more of the villain(s) motives and backstory before the resolution?

I thought this episode had the most laugh out loud moments ‘in show’ so far. All of Vision’s direct to camera stuff was great. Also this ep had 2 of the best scenes of the series for me - Monica going through the hex wall and Agatha reveal / theme song
 


Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
I'm wondering if the Hex passing over people (and perhaps expanding worldwide in a later episode) isn't the event that bring mutants into the MCU now that they have the rights to do so.

Well, Photon isn't generally classified as a mutant.

Only a small number of people have encountered the Hex. I don't think that is going to explain mutants, worldwide.
 


Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
I don't know what it means. Very likely it's just a fun throwback. But still...just how long have the threads of this show been around??

Probably not as long a you think.

Marvel creators are always putting tons of unnecessary details into their works. It is awesome, for two reasons - one is that it makes the world seem complete, with a history and all. The other is that it gives later Marvel creators something to hook into.

I don't expect there was already a plan in place, back when they were making Agents of Shield, to have a carnival, the Darkhold, and Photon all show up in one episode of a Disney+ show. I think they were making the series, decided it was a great vehicle to introduce Photon, and looked back and went, "Hey, you know, this would be cool..."

Kind of like a GM who hacks together a link between your character background an a campaign plot after the fact, but makes it look like it was in the plan all along...
 
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Dire Bare

Legend
Supporter
Probably not at long a you think.

Marvel creators are always putting tons of unnecessary details into their works. It is awesome, for two reasons - one is that it makes the world seem complete, with a history and all. The other is that it gives later Marvel cretors something to hook into.

I don't expect there was already a plan in place, back when they were making Agents of Shield, to have a carnival, the Darkhold, and Photon all show up in one episode of a Disney+ show. I think they were making the series, decided it was a great vehicle to introduce Photon, and looked back and went, "Hey, you know, this would be cool..."

Kind of like a GM who hacks together a link between your character background an a campaign plot after the fact, but makes it look like it was in the plan all along...
That . . . and the fact that the folks making these shows are super huge NERDS. They put in all of these easter eggs and references BECAUSE THEY CAN. It's like flexing your nerd knowledge for all the world, and only the elite will notice . . . well, and those of us reading internet summaries afterwards . . . .
 

Dire Bare

Legend
Supporter
I wonder whether we'll even have a framing 'show' next episode, or if that's all abandoned with this show's reveal. Then again, I'm no more familiar with 20teens family sitcoms than I was with this week's so it'll probably make little difference to me.
This week's sitcom style was pretty . . . modern (heh, see what I did there) in the style of Modern Family, which is still on the air. With each episode so far pushing the sitcom style forward a decade or so . . . I'm not sure where there is left to go!
 

Only a small number of people have encountered the Hex. I don't think that is going to explain mutants, worldwide.
Alternatively, they could use the Snap/Blip as an explanation for mutants. They could say something like, "For reasons unknown to us, a small percentage of the population that was Blipped had their genome partially rewritten after they came back, mutating them and granting them strange and unique abilities."

Or, they could just use the Multiverse. Either could work, but would have different and interesting consequences.
 

I feel like they need to avoid some inciting event for mutants. Like, a person shouldn’t be a mutant because something happened to them. It messes with the allegory quite a lot, and I bet there’d be some serious backlash if they went that route.

Mutants should probably be born mutants.
 

I wonder whether we'll even have a framing 'show' next episode, or if that's all abandoned with this show's reveal. Then again, I'm no more familiar with 20teens family sitcoms than I was with this week's so it'll probably make little difference to me.
That is something the show makes apparent. As time moves on TV becomes more diverse, so it becomes increasingly difficult to find a TV show - never mind a family sit-com - that is iconic for that decade.

Maybe for the 2010s they will do Agents of SHIELD, and 2020s, Wandavision?

NB, 2000s episode: Monica Rambeau transformed into a superhero (complete with supersuit and ground punch). 2000 X-Men released. 2008 Iron Man released.
 
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When they stopped Monica from going back before, they said her cells had mutated. I'm wondering if the Hex passing over people (and perhaps expanding worldwide in a later episode) isn't the event that bring mutants into the MCU now that they have the rights to do so.
A worldwide Hex could alter reality so that mutants had been there all along.

It's basically a massive Retcon engine.
 

cbwjm

Hero
I feel like they need to avoid some inciting event for mutants. Like, a person shouldn’t be a mutant because something happened to them. It messes with the allegory quite a lot, and I bet there’d be some serious backlash if they went that route.

Mutants should probably be born mutants.
I think they were going to run with the inhumans as the mutant substitute but the show ended after one season.
 

MarkB

Legend
I feel like they need to avoid some inciting event for mutants. Like, a person shouldn’t be a mutant because something happened to them. It messes with the allegory quite a lot, and I bet there’d be some serious backlash if they went that route.

Mutants should probably be born mutants.
It would lose some of the narrative hooks of the original version, but it would explain why mutants haven't been around in the MCU until now.

Plus it ties in as a naming convention. It can be the mutant Hex-factor, leading to the superhero team of the Uncanny Hex-Men. :D
 





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