soldier instead of warlord

[el-remmen]

Go back to Marshal.

<Jan Brady>Marshal! Marshal! Marshal!</Jan Brady>

 

[Amphimir Míriel]

I guess it's just a name you have to grow into. After all, when you hear wizard, you think Merlin, or Gandalf, right? Hardly a one-spell wonder like "Joe Wand, 1st level Conjurer of Cheap Tricks"; but Joe Wand is a Wizard too right?

I gues the same is true for Warlord. Gotta start somewhere ..

You win...

In fact, I may name my next character "Joe Wand"

 

[Celebrim]

So, fighters should have both Defender and Leader, while other classes simply have one role?

I'm not sold on this whole concept of 'role'. It seems limiting.

 

[Lurks-no-More]

I know the name bugs people, but I think it's better than any of the alternatives I've heard.

Agreed. It's hardly perfect, but it's better than any of the suggestions people come up with. (In fact, didn't we have a poll about this, with Warlord getting less than 50% of votes, yet beating every other alternative?)

 

[pawsplay]

Agreed. It's hardly perfect, but it's better than any of the suggestions people come up with. (In fact, didn't we have a poll about this, with Warlord getting less than 50% of votes, yet beating every other alternative?)

Maybe that's a sign it's not a fully developed archetype.

 

[Mercule]

What about Marshal?

That'd tie for my top pick. The other contender is knight, since the term knight pretty well equates to "martial leader".

I don't really have an issue with warlord but, as PC said, it's too similar to warlock.

Honestly, every other suggestion I've heard sucks pretty bad. Soldier is the best, but still unfortunate. Tactician is probably the worst I've heard tossed out seriously, unless bravo was serious.

 

[The Little Raven]

I'm not sold on this whole concept of 'role'. It seems limiting.

It's all about group play and making sure you're useful and competent for the level of encounters you should be facing. It's just an extrapolation and fleshing out of what has always existed.

 

[Plane Sailing]

In my last campaign I used the term 'warlord' for a nobles right hand man wrt military forces. Most nobles had a warlord and a spymaster, who co-ordinated the overt and covert military forces of the noble.

My use of this term was drawn from one-time new york gang terminology - when the gangs would have a leader and a 'warlord' who used to arrange the fighting.

So with that as my background, I'm probably deliriously happy with both the concept and the name of the Warlord class, because it fits in beautifully with what I've already used.

Mind you, I'm not so keen on the name collision between warlord and warlock... so I'd prefer to see warlock have his name changed (something nice and classical, like sorcerer perhaps?)

Cheers

 

[BASHMAN]

How about "Brigadier"

It has a military connotation to it, but without "general" attached, it also has that old D&D thesaurus inspired naming-- using obscure words and bringing them into common usage. Like when a Cavalier got to a certain level and became a Chevilier, etc. Where it not for D&D, most of us would only consider Constitution to be a written document outlining the laws of a nation.

So go ahead, D&D-- expand our vocabularies once again! Dig into that thesaurus and find an old way to give us a new concept!

 

[Twiggly the Gnome]

The thing I find odd about the name "Warlord" is that they decided to go with a term that has somewhat of a gender connotation, especially since they made a point of changing all the <foo>men into <foo>folk. I'm surprised they didn't go with something like "Warsovereign".