WotC Some Rich Dude Calls for Wizards of the Coast to "Burn in Hell" and I Refuse to Care

[Morrus]

Even if it came to pass (some rich guy buying WotC only to shut it down), it wouldn't really impair me. The creative minds would still be there. Sure, they might publish things I like at Paizo instead of WotC, but... honestly I don't care about the publisher brand, I care about the content.

I mean, the people at WotC change a LOT! I've been reporting on D&D for 25 years now. The Ship of Theseus several times over.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Creative minds won't have the brand though.

Sure, it might hurt recognition by some people who aren't me. If "Dungeons & Dragons" stopped and we had Pathfinder branded products, I'd be equally happy. As @Morrus pointed out, WotC doesn't own the people, they just hire them and they change over time. I don't think they have some special secret sauce for doing thing, except a marketing clout coming from the name being mainstream (Stranger Things, the D&D movie...) they've become synonymous with RPG the same way some brand name have become item names, and item have survived the disappearance of the brand.

 

[Zardnaar]

Sure, it might hurt recognition by some people who aren't me. If "Dungeons & Dragons" stopped and we had Pathfinder branded products, I'd be equally happy.

Well you won't have 5E. Those creative woukd have to go to the Kobolds or where. They can probably only absorb a few.

Assuming in this scenario they tank the brand completely.

 

[Mistwell]

Who is up for Xungeons & Xragons?

 

[Nord Ronnoc]

What makes you say that?

Not that I think he's serious about this. Everything he's bought before furthered a relatively single vision centered around space, and influence to further his space endeavors. Solar, drilling, electric engines, space vehicles, Twitter to influence people, AI to help solve problems with it, Neurolink to pilot a variety of things from a distance, etc.. Hasbro doesn't seem to fit anywhere in that scheme of elements.

Haven't heard much news about it being for sale. And yeah, I'm with you on that. Hasbro has a good relationship with Disney (whom I'll bet he despises), has multiple financial owners worth more than Musk. He's just is just throwing a temper tantrum. He had a similar reaction to Microsoft's push for diversity.

 

[Parmandur]

If he bid high enough, I am sure investors will sell.

He would have to overdid the value of the company to get thwt reaction, and to do that he would need financing...while he is still tens of billions of dollars underwater...and he ain't going to get that scratch from the banks for a toy company when he is maxed out on his credit.

 

[Mistwell]

He would have to overdid the value of the company to get thwt reaction, and to do that he would need financing...while he is still tens of billions of dollars underwater...and he ain't going to get that scratch from the banks for a toy company when he is maxed out on his credit.

He's worth $323 billion. He hasn't come anywhere even vaguely close to maxing out his credit.

 

[Parmandur]

He's worth $323 billion. He hasn't come anywhere even vaguely close to maxing out his credit.

In theory, but he is illiquid. He needs to borrow against his stock to do anything, or sell in (relatively) small amounts. Selling $10 billion in Tesla stock would cause major issues for Tesla's valuation, and last time he did thst he still needed to borrow a lot of money. I doubt that his attention span will last for "buying Hasbro," but he is still paying off a massive debt on a purchase that destroyed 75% of what was paid.

 

[Mistwell]

In theory, but he is illiquid. He needs to borrow against his stock to do anything, or sell in (relatively) small amounts. Selling $10 billion in Tesla stock would cause major issues for Tesla's valuation, and last time he did thst he still needed to borrow a lot of money. I doubt that his attention span will last for "buying Hasbro," but he is still paying off a massive debt on a purchase that destroyed 75% of what was paid.

I don't think he will buy Hasbro, and I mentioned earlier it doesn't match anything he's been doing. But I think you're badly underestimating his value and ability to raise capital. Twitter was nearly meaningless to his overall fortune. He's the richest man on the planet.

 

[Parmandur]

I don't think he will buy Hasbro, and I mentioned earlier it doesn't match anything he's been doing. But I think you're badly underestimating his value and ability to raise capital. Twitter was nearly meaningless to his overall fortune.

He has actually been in hot water with his lenders over the devaluation of Twitter and destroying the ad revenue since he took over. Being tens of billions underwater on a loan is no joke, even if he has a lot of paper value.