Sooo, that's my players certain not to be subscribing to DDI...

[Ulthwithian]

I think Kamikaze_Midget hit it for me: You don't have to buy the books to play. And this isn't SRD content only, but all rules. Considering that most role-players seem to have laptops these days (I do not), consider that you can have the Rules database up and searching it in-session.

I could definitely see groups that use this option. I hope to.

 

[JDJblatherings]

The prices aren't new but seeing them more concrete makes things clearer.


There is no way in heck the folks I play with are signing up for DDI. Most of hte folks I game with are in for the price of a PHB, a half dozen mags and 2 other books , a dozen figures. every 5 years or so. That's works out to about $40.00 a year.

So over 5 years the DDI is offering to charge them $600.00 for what they currently are paying $200.00 for.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

There is a good chance I may subscribe for the Rules Database.

I view it likes this, I rather spend $120 a year, and get all the rules, then spend probably $40 for each rules-oriented book I would like to use, so you figure if there are 3 books a year that is already the whole $120, if there is more it goes over the $120.

I also get a official character-creator (hopefully with printable version), character-visualizer (again hopefully printable) and all the Dungeon and Dragon stuff, which to buy separately when they were magazines for each issue would go over $120.

That to me is good, damn good actually value. Also you figure you have a bunch of friends you play with, they each chip in, that would drop the price a fair degree, so 3 friends: $40 a year.

 

[outsider]

This is a FANTASTIC value. If they do the rules database well, I might never buy another D&D book again. I could spend around $40 each on a phb, mm, and dmg. Or I could spend $120 and get access to every single piece of rules material they publish all year. It's an easy choice to me.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

100% correct! This is a horrible value for the average player. MOST players don't purchase an individual copy of Dungeon and Dragon magazines. MOST players don't need a rules database for every book that comes out. MOST players aren't using tools to design adventures.

TBH, I dropped Dragon after Paizo took it over because it became a DM tool, and had nothing that I, a player, found useful. Strangely, I've liked the articles that've come out since online.

We'll see if I do DDI. I'm neutral, but not screaming over the price. It's less than the cost of subscribing to both magazines was, and the character creater may be awesome, though right now I don't see a point to it.

Brad

 

[Mistwell]

$2.30 a week? Seems fair to me.

 

[malraux]

It's a pretty good value for what you get, though I'm still unsure if it'll be worth it to me. That said, I would love it if different elements got unbundled. That is, ~40 a year for just the rules database/character sheet generator, with similar prices for the magazines.

 

[Imban]

The Rules Database sounds awesome. The new Character Visualizer pics are... better.

If the Rules Database, Character Visualizer, and Game Table work, and well, they can count on a full-year subscription from me, easy. If they instead make fail... well, they make fail. I'm not paying $10/month for Dragon Magazine.

 

[roguerouge]

Alternatively, I could support Paizo for the kind of content that I'd find in Dragon and Dungeon magazine.... and then, I could buy enworld products too!

Okay, that was waaaayyyy too snarky. But you get my point: if it's about the Dragon and Dungeon style content, give me Paizo and enworld. If it's about the other stuff... well, I'm in three 3rd edition games right now that aren't switching.

 

[Roman]

It is my impression that the 'Rules Database' does not contain the full rules like many people here seem to expect, but rather only the names of the various feats, powers, etc - their actual descriptions and mechanics will still be contained in the books.