Special Conversion Thread: Aboleths

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Back to enslave for a moment: despite being weaker psionically, the saltwater aboleth has better enslavement. It shouldn't be broken until the victim moves 5 miles away, and it should be 6/day instead of 3/day. That's the difference in the older versions.

Will fix.

The regular aboleth doesn't have telepathy, so I don't think the psionically weaker saltwater one should have it either.

Yeah, but they added ESP for the saltwater, which translates to telepathy and/or detect thoughts in 3e. Also, the psionic aboleth has mindlike, which confers telepathy as part of its powers.

Let's give them also Swim (seems logical, right?). Other than that, maybe Spellcraft or Psicraft (for the underbar). Autohypnosis or an additional Knowledge also seem like good choices.

Those are good sugggestions.

Perhaps Improved Initiative for the last feat?

That'll work.

I guess any aquatic if we can't specify saltwater.

If the name doesn't hammer that point home, the flavor text should!

 

[freyar]

Good point on telepathy. 60 ft since mindlink is close range?

 

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Updated.

Did you want to pilfer any ranks for Authohypnosis for the psi variant?

CR 8 (one higher than standard aboleth)?

 

[freyar]

Umm, I think it's ok without autohypnosis ranks (though it does have a synergy bonus from Concentration).

CR 8 sounds ok to me.

 

[demiurge1138]

CR 8 is good, but I think I'd like it to have Autohypnosis. Pilfer the ranks from what is the question.

 

[freyar]

A few each from Concentration, Psicraft, and Swim? Say 3 or 4 each?

 

[demiurge1138]

I think pilfering them all from Swim is our best bet. It can take 10. It has a +8 racial bonus. It has a Str modifier of +8. I don't think there's going to be much in the deep ocean a swim check of 26 won't be able to handle (except maybe a whirlpool or something like that).

 

[freyar]

That's fine. I suggested Swim above, but I'm almost thinking that we should take those
ranks for a second Knowledge skill in the non-psionic version. After all, they are supposed to be repositories of ancient knowledge and all that.

 

[demiurge1138]

Another Knowledge skill would be good.

 

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Updated.

What's left?