Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off giants and their kin

[freyar]

Agreed w/DR and light sensitivity (though you could persuade me toward Con damage).

What about Str 23, Dex 16, Con 20, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 9?

 

[demiurge1138]

The wasting in sunlight is just a neat mechanic that's underused. I can gladly settle on light blindness, as per the drow.

Some thoughts on flavor. One: what's the relationship between cave lords and barghests? Both of them fill the "big, cannibal goblin-boss" dynamic. Second: now that kobolds aren't goblinoid anymore, we're going to have to make some minor alterations. Perhaps cave lords direct their goblinoid tribes to raid kobold warrens for delicious captives?

 

[Shade]

The wasting in sunlight is just a neat mechanic that's underused.

I agree, and for that reason, let's use it.

Some thoughts on flavor. One: what's the relationship between cave lords and barghests? Both of them fill the "big, cannibal goblin-boss" dynamic. Second: now that kobolds aren't goblinoid anymore, we're going to have to make some minor alterations. Perhaps cave lords direct their goblinoid tribes to raid kobold warrens for delicious captives?

I was wondering that myself. That sounds like a good idea, and the cave lords may eat goblins if enough kobolds are captured to sate their hunger. Talk about motivation!

 

[freyar]

Con damage it is, then!

Now, I like that flavor! Regarding barghests, perhaps there's a natural rivalry here?

 

[Shade]

Added to Homebrews.

 

[freyar]

Any other special abilities? I'm almost inclined to make something out of the chanting and burning herbs while eating kobolds, but that could just be flavor text instead.

 

[demiurge1138]

Maybe rend, as they seem sort of troll-ish.

 

[Shade]

I like rend. I'm not sure what to do with the herb bits.

Goblins have a +4 racial bonus on Move Silently and Ride checks.
Hobgoblins have a +4 racial bonus on Move Silently checks.
Norkers have a +4 racial bonus on Move Silently checks.

So how about a +4 racial bonus on Move Silently checks?

 

[demiurge1138]

Sounds good!

I'd be willing to make the chanting and herbs into flavor-text.

 

[Filby]

A cave lord is about the size of a hill or stone giant, so shouldn't its size be Large rather than Huge?

Also, they're described as "obscenely obese" but have a listed weight of 600-700 lbs.; a hill giant's average weight is about 1,100 lbs., so a cave lord should weigh a good deal more than that.