Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off the fey

[freyar]

Actually, the original text says Str is 18(50), which translates to Str 19. I could even see some justification for a slight bump from that, depending on how things look later. In any case, aside from the Str, that looks pretty good.

 

[demiurge1138]

Yeah, I agree to boosting Str to 19.

 

[Cleon]

Actually, the original text says Str is 18(50), which translates to Str 19. I could even see some justification for a slight bump from that, depending on how things look later. In any case, aside from the Str, that looks pretty good.

That depends how you translate it. An AD&D Strength 18/50 is the next Strength category in line after 18 (arguing for a 19), but AD&D ability scores have a much wider plateau in the middle, so most stats don't get bonuses until they reach 15 (instead of 12 like in 3E). Using the damage bonus of +3 for that Strength instead of the raw number you get an equivalent 3E Strength of 16-17, which is what I went for, since it was closest to what you get scaling down an Ogre or Athach's Strength to Medium.

Still, I have no objection to boosting it to 19, we can always say Fachans are at the burly (300-400 pound?) end of Medium.

There are a couple of other stats that look east converts. Speed 9" => 20 feet, Alignment is probably Usually Chaotic Evil and treasure is pretty good (U or Z), so should be at least standard. (It's actually a lot for a single monster, so double standard may be more suited - but that seems rather a lot for such a monster).

So we're now.

Lesser Fachan
Medium Aberration
Hit Dice 5d8+5 (32hp)
Speed 20 ft.
AC 15 (+2 Dex, +3 natural)
Str 19, Dex 15, Con 12, Int 7, Wis 12, Cha 6
Alignment: Usually chaotic evil
Organization: Solitary
Treasure: Standard

 

[freyar]

I'm just using the 2e->3e conversion guide that WotC put out. But what you have now looks fine.

 

[Shade]

Added to Homebrews.

 

[Cleon]

Added to Homebrews.

Aren't we giving them a "Fighter-like" SQ to provide them a fighter's BAB and bonus feats? If so, it should be BAB +5, grapple +9.

I'm wondering whether we should give them a "mighty thew" type ability that gives their single arm a 1.5 times Strength damage-bonus and the ability to wield 2-handed weapons, on the basis that it's as strong as two normal arms? If I remember correctly, Fachans are sometimes portrayed as wielding heavy weapons like great flails and halberds.

Speaking of which, what weapon shall we give them as a default?

Heavy flail would be my preference, although I wouldn't mind greatax. We can give them javelins for a ranged weapon - I doubt they'd be much good at using a bow!

 

[Shade]

I'm not sure they need the fighter BAB, etc., especially if we're modeling them upon the athach, which lacks such an ability.

The "wield oversized weapon" bit seems a good fit, though. So what is a better approach, the more common "wield a weapon sized for a larger creature" ability, allowing it to wield a flail sized for a larger creature in one-hand, or create an ability that allows it to treat two-handed melee weapons as one-handed? I'd assume we would want to exclude double weapons, as that would seem...odd.

 

[freyar]

Suppose we stick to the flail. A Large flail does 2d6 damage. A Medium (2-handed) heavy flail is 1d10/19-20. Damage averages higher for the Large flail but is more concentrated near the average, but the heavy flail will crit twice as often (roughly). Which do we like better?

 

[demiurge1138]

I like the ability for them to wield two-handed weapons in one hand. It seems righter, somehow.

Would they gain the Str x 1.5 when using a two-handed weapon? Even if not, we should address this.

 

[Shade]

Good question. On the one hand (pun intended), they essentially have only one weapon, so if it were a natural attack, they'd get Str and 1/2. They'd also, theoretically, have adapted to relying more on that single arm, so I could see the added Str.

Anyone opposed to Str and 1/2?