Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off the oozes

[freyar]

I think a Climb speed of 10ft is reasonable.

Cleon, I meant that a smarter imorph (say a "PC" kind of character) might want to use imorphism to infiltrate human society, for example. If imorphism is truly completely instinctive, it couldn't do that. I guess the question was whether the imorph's rigid use of shapechanging is due to low intelligence or whether it's subconscious. But this thing is complicated enough already, and I don't want to confuse the issue any more.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

CR 4?

 

[freyar]

Sure. Hard to gauge with the imorphism, but that sound reasonable.

 

[Shade]

Yeah, the imorphism can radically alter its ability to hit and be hit, and survive saves, but it never gains hit points nor deals greater damage. Plus, it gets better slowly.

 

[Cleon]

I think a Climb speed of 10ft is reasonable.

Cleon, I meant that a smarter imorph (say a "PC" kind of character) might want to use imorphism to infiltrate human society, for example. If imorphism is truly completely instinctive, it couldn't do that. I guess the question was whether the imorph's rigid use of shapechanging is due to low intelligence or whether it's subconscious. But this thing is complicated enough already, and I don't want to confuse the issue any more.

Oh, right. So basically you're asking whether an "smart" imorph could do the Doppleganger trick. Going by the description I'd say no. Imorphism only works while the creature is in melee, so it would have to infiltrate human society while fighting an exact duplicate of itself who'll probably be shrieking "I'm the real me!"

That would likely attract attention even in a rowdy neighbourhood.

 

[Cleon]

Updated.

How about a climb speed (and the accompanying +8 racial bonus on Climb checks)? Say, 10 feet?

CR 4?

Climb speed 10' is fine by me, the skills & feats look good as well.

Not sure about the CR, my gut feeling was CR 3 based on its mediocre damage and HP, but it could merit a 4. As you say, its power makes it very hard to evaluate without extensive playtesting.

Indeed, its effective CR would change depending on what it's copying - an imorph emulating a Kobold obviously represents a lesser challenge than one copying a Gray Render.

 

[Shade]

Yeah, CR 3 might be more appropriate. It is average in so many ways other than its one trick. Let's go CR 3.

Updated.

Are we finally finished?

 

[Cleon]

Yeah, CR 3 might be more appropriate. It is average in so many ways other than its one trick. Let's go CR 3.

Updated.

Are we finally finished?

The only remaining quibble I could find in its stats is to ask whether that Disguise modifier is correct. Shouldn't it be 0 (ranks) -4 (Cha 2) = Disguise -4?

Apart from that I think we're done.

 

[Shade]

The only remaining quibble I could find in its stats is to ask whether that Disguise modifier is correct. Shouldn't it be 0 (ranks) -4 (Cha 2) = Disguise -4?

Apart from that I think we're done.

Good catch. I'll fix it.

I'll post another ooze soon!

 

[Cleon]

Good catch. I'll fix it.

I'll post another ooze soon!

Hold on, I've thought of another quibble. Rather than "When using imorphism, an imorph gains a +10 circumstance bonus on Disguise checks," I'd go for "When using imorphism to completely mimic an opponent, an imorph gains a +10 circumstance bonus on Disguise checks."

Don't think it should get the full Disguise bonus when it's only partially transformed, and having it increase round-by-round as it changes is (a) far too fiddly (b) its Disguise wouldn't be very effective while its still changing in front of the PCs' eyes.