Special Conversion Thread: Moldvay's Undead

[freyar]

I agree that these are going to be pretty easy. Mini-template again?

 

[Shade]

Agreed.

As Cleon pointed out, they aren't mindless.

Make Weapon Focus (claws) a bonus feat rather than Improved Initiative?

 

[Cleon]

Agreed.

As Cleon pointed out, they aren't mindless.

Make Weapon Focus (claws) a bonus feat rather than Improved Initiative?

I was thinking give them WF (claws) as their default "standard feat" as well as Improved Initiative as a bonus feat.

We could lay out a suggested feat progression for them, something like:

up to 2 HD - Weapon Focus (claws) and Improved Initiative (B) ?
3-5 HD + Lightning Reflexes ?
6-8 HD + Alertness ?
9-11 HD + Improved Natural Attack (claws) ?
12-14 HD + Stealthy ?
15-17 HD + Ability Focus (death throes) ?
18-20 HD + Improved Critical (claws) ?

 

[Shade]

Let's avoid a suggested feat progression.

I'm fine with either replacing Improved Init w/ WF as the bonus feat, or simply giving WF to the sample creatures as one of the available feats.

 

[freyar]

Well, let's just assign feats to the samples. I can agree with that.

As for which is a bonus, I don't really mind either way.

 

[Cleon]

Well, let's just assign feats to the samples. I can agree with that.

As for which is a bonus, I don't really mind either way.

Sounds like we can keep the Skellie Template's Imp. Initiative bonus feat and give the sample creatures WF (claws) and whatever else we fancy as normal feats.

That's fine by me.

 

[Shade]

Added to Homebrews.

Skills?

 

[freyar]

Max out Tumble, help it get into the midst of foes to explode better.

 

[Cleon]

Max out Tumble, help it get into the midst of foes to explode better.

We should leave assigning skill points to the sample monsters, but we can decide on class skills.

The original text implies they have a taste for ambush, which suggests Hide and Move Silently to me. Might as well give them Listen and Spot as class skills while we're at it.

Class Skills: Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Spot and Tumble ?

Since they look like pale ice I would suspect they'd also have a racial bonus to Hide checks in ice and snow.

*+8 racial bonus on Hide checks when amongst ice or snow ?

 

[Cleon]

Added to Homebrews.

Skills?

Looking at the template I can see one problem:

1) Shouldn't the death throes scale with size?

As it is, cryomancers would be taking Fine-sized flying creatures and turning them into 3d4+3 damage homing ice-missiles!

Maybe something like:

Tiny or smaller 2d3
Small 2d4+1
Medium 3d4+2
Large 4d4+3
Huge 6d4+4
Gargantuan 8d4+6
Colossal 10d4+8

Oh, and I think we owe it to ourselves to include a Frost Giant Crystal Skeleton among the sample creatures!