Spellfire feat IS IT Worth Taking?

[Xarlen]

Simply because Spellfire is powerful, and people want it, and they want to have hundreds of warriors injected with it so they could have lots and lots of spellfire wielders, and do experiments on them and stuff...



Basicly, it's an RP mechanism. You get a powerful power like this? OKAY, but you're going to have to live with the concequences.

It's like saying 'Hey, Can I play a Half-celestial fighter?'

SURE. However, expect everyone and their dog to come to you, asking for miracles, because you're obviously some angel from another world. That's how people React.

 

[reapersaurus]

Simply because Spellfire is powerful, and people want it, and they want to have hundreds of warriors injected with it so they could have lots and lots of spellfire wielders, and do experiments on them and stuff...

Basicly, it's an RP mechanism. You get a powerful power like this? OKAY, but you're going to have to live with the concequences.

It's like saying 'Hey, Can I play a Half-celestial fighter?'

SURE. However, expect everyone and their dog to come to you, asking for miracles, because you're obviously some angel from another world. That's how people React.

But I really don't see how beihng hunted down follows blowing people away with a Spellfire discharge every now and then.

Half-Celestials, in my experience, DON'T get mobbed like you say they do.

Maybe they should, as a 'role-playing mechanism', but I doubt if they are all the time, so why should a Spellfire Weilder be singled out?

Superficially, is there much different between a Spellfire Weilder blowing away someone every now and again with a discharge, and a mage casting fireball to fry people like bacon all the time?

Nobody would know that the Spellfire guy can absorb magic - people would guess they saved, or were immune, or the spell fizzled or something.

I also don't understand why a Spellfire guy would be wanted for studying and replication.
I don't see mages swiping drow all the time to try and 'take' the mystery of their SR (which I'm sure would also be very nice for their armies to have) or a number of other innate abilities.
This isn't modern-day with cloning.
Why wouldn't they try to 'steal' the mystery of a dragon's breath weapon, while they're at it?

 

[Thanee]

Yeah, that sounds a little like the typical 'NPCs know everything' stuff.

There's really no reason, unless someone was already specifically looking for a spellfire wielder and would happen to see the PC use his or her powers, that people would see anything but just another magical effect there.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Arcanus]

Well what do you guys think?
If my DM says yes then what? Do you think it would fit the flavor
of this character concept?

Like I said I want to be able to make people think I am a supernatural force, a Celestial/Outsider like power.

I want to be able to constantly search for new arcane powers and spells, and feats that provide alternate methods of casting,creation etc... (this would also include prestige classes)

The 2 classes I will be using as PrC's are Dragon's Eldritch Master and the Elder Druid.

Both of these in their own right have several cool and supernatural abilities. Spellfire would be a cool flavor addition to these 2 PrC's already supernatural goodness.

I am already taking Spellcasting Prodigy as a feat. What other PrC's and feats would be a flavor addition to this Magister wannabe?
What issue of Dragon was the Flame Steward in?

 

[Thanee]

Well, if you aim for some special powers, then Spellfire could give you those.

But does this character also has a background?
Why does he do all this (I mean other than because you think it's a cool idea )?

Bye
Thanee

 

[Arcanus]

Working on the background thing right now.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

He first off he is a sorcerer, so he has mysterious arcane abilities derived from somewhere or something from his family history.

So far this is what I got. He realizes that he is different than other wizards/clerics etc... He gets spells from just resting, no prayers or studying. So he goes about researching his homeland (maybe Calimshan if i take Bloodline of Fire) to try and discover if any major magical catastrophies has taken place around the time of his older known family. His research also drives him into researching religions, ancient history and anything arcane in general. He now has developed Skill Focus Knowledge history.

He goes on several fact finding and rumor chasing excursions.
He finds a like minded order of arcane spellcasters called the Elder Druids. Having no real loyalty to any real god he fits right in.
Using this order's vast supply of knowledge he gains further insight into the Arcane and the Outerplanes not to mention events that have shaped the way of magic and the land in which he has lived his life.

Sometime in his career he has stumbled upon the knowledge he has a blood-relationship with Outsiders/or/Dragons. Finding names for such relatives and stories about them he attempts to track them down or at the very least he contacts them somehow.
Much to his disapointment he doesn't receive any family picnic type reunions, (possibly said Dragon great, great, great, great, great,great grandfather thinks he could make a picnic out of me)
not sure about that though).

Anyway the only success he has is one relative (outsider/dragon) that is willing to explain his mysterious ancestry and his awesome arcane powers. The character now has aligned himself or has sworn fealty to this relative in exchange for tutorship of Eldritch Sorcerery. Now he has another PrC called the Eldritch Master.

He has made promises and oaths to said relative to share and perform favors in all matters arcane and supernatural with his teacher and to bring more beings into the fold. (working for the man so to speak). He has only gotten his appetite wet for more knowledge and he gets virtually no favors from his teacher(s) they pretty much just opened the door for him and he does all the work so they don't have to.

From time to time they call on him to perform tasks or investigate strange and wonderous things. He rarely gets the chance to talk to them about his own matters and when he does it is just like "Contact Other Plane" or "Commune".

During his travels he sometimes teaches and tells tales of Arcane Angels and other outsiders etc....

Any help on the above or opinions would be welcome

 

[ConcreteBuddha]

Is the Spellfire Feat worth taking from FRCS?

Well, had I allowed Spellfire, (which I didn't), everyone IMC would have taken this feat. Being able to absorb spells from fellow PCs is what makes it way too powerful at low levels.

Five Spellfire wielders in one party. Sheesh.
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P.S. As a house-rule, if I wanted to limit this feat, I'd say you could only absorb hostile magic. Just IMHO...

 

[Arcanus]

Any opinions on my background and whether or not spellfire would fit in there somewhere?

 

[KarinsDad]

Hehe, but it's not really fair to compare it to one of the crappiest feats in D&D.

True, but then again, there weren't any feats in any of WotC's books that were more powerful.

Besides, I thought it was very funny to say that.

 

[Mr Fidgit]

OK, you begged me to ask.

WHY exactly does having the Spellfire feat apparently guarantee that they will be kidnapped by some Arch-Mage and studied or something?

Is this written in the rulebooks, or something?
I presume this is people insisting that whatever happened to Alias (or whoever it was that was in the books) will happen to the PC.

i think this was one of (the many) things the FR people felt they had to put in the rules, simply because it appears in a FR novel (like Elminster and Drizzt )

the point (in the novel) is there was only one person on the planet, at a time, who could have spellfire, so nasty evil bad guys would want to capture/dissect/take it from you.

arcanus - a PC is born with this ability (or should be). you wouldn't have to explain it in your background, necessarily. you don't have spellfire because you're a sorceror, you're a sorceror because you have spellfire. as in - it's always been a part of who you are. taking a spell casting class is perfectly logical - to find out about yourself, and your own abilities.


hope that helps