spiked armor twf

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Well, could you consider Armor Spikes more akin to a doubleweapon, like a quarterstaff?

Only if your DM instituted a house rule. As it stands, Armor Spikes are not double weapons, and using them assumes that your character is stabbing with his elbows, impaling things with his shoulders, goring things with his helmet, etc., all at the same time.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

However, if you take off one gauntlet, you could use unarmed and armor spikes!

You don't even need to take off the gauntlet.

What about gauntlets and armor spikes? Could gauntlets be one light weapon and armor spikes the other?

Your unarmed strike (not the gauntlet) would be one light weapon, and the armor spikes could be your other, but yes, that would work.

What if it's a spiked gauntlet

A spiked gauntlet is a separate weapon, and could be combined with armor spikes just like a sword could.

 

[ARandomGod]

So a druid could get, say, spiked hide armor for medium quadrapeds, shift into brown bear form, have someone put the armor on him, and go to town with a Spike + Bite/Claw/Claw routine? Holy cow!

Yes, Rather complicated, but yes.

Now the way I did it was to be a warforged which gets a slam attack, and take a couple of levels of Dragon Disciple, for a claw/claw/bite...and take the armor spikes feat. That's relatively feat intensive going the WF route, as you're using two feats (one for armor, a second for spikes), but it does get you:
Spike (and BAB iterative spikes) Bite/Slam/Claw/Claw.

It would probably be more effective with some other race with a slam or tail-slap, since they wouldn't have to spend two feats on armor and armor spikes. ...

 

[Gestalt]

That's what I'm driving at...that I think armor spikes should/could be considered a double weapon.
Tellerve

One problem with just letting armour spikes work for both parts of TWF is that a real double weapon costs the character more money, as both parts of the weapon get enchanted seperately.

A possible solution for armour spikes is to buy two sets of armour spikes, get them both enchanted, and use them both for TWF. This is certainly silly, but doesn't look unbalanced.

 

[werk]

Armor spikes count as A martial weapon, not multiple weapons...and it is a light weapon. In the weapons table it is Armor Spikes, so I don't see how it is possible to have multiple armor spikes weapons.

I wouldn't allow armor spikes to be two weapons, nor a double weapon. Double weapon seems a huge stretch to me...I wouldn't even consider allowing it.

 

[ARandomGod]

One problem with just letting armour spikes work for both parts of TWF is that a real double weapon costs the character more money, as both parts of the weapon get enchanted seperately.

A possible solution for armour spikes is to buy two sets of armour spikes, get them both enchanted, and use them both for TWF. This is certainly silly, but doesn't look unbalanced.

I was thinking along the same lines, but didn't bother to put it down.... as it's custom anyhow. But if you were to "get two sets" of armor spikes and enchant them both seperately it wouldn't be overpowered.

 

[Stalker0]

Can you swing with a greatsword and then use the armor spikes as an off hand wep?

 

[Tellerve]

Armor spikes count as A martial weapon, not multiple weapons...and it is a light weapon. In the weapons table it is Armor Spikes, so I don't see how it is possible to have multiple armor spikes weapons.

I wouldn't allow armor spikes to be two weapons, nor a double weapon. Double weapon seems a huge stretch to me...I wouldn't even consider allowing it.

Well, by RAW you are correct and I'm wrong. However, I don't see it as a huge stretch to attack twice with a part of your body covered in spiked armor. I could see where that statement could get me in trouble, but spiked armor isn't a great weapon. I was more imagining a situation where it would be nice. In any case, I do think having to pay more for the double spiked for weapon enchantments like a normal double weapon would be proper and fitting.

Tellerve

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Can you swing with a greatsword and then use the armor spikes as an off hand wep?

Yes.

You can also swing with a greatsword and use an unarmed strike as an off-hand weapon.

 

[kjenks]

You can use the spikes as part of your TWF attacks, but you cannot wield the same weapon multiple times in order to dual-wield it.

For instance, you cannot use unarmed strike as both your primary and secondary weapon while TWF. Similarly, you cannot use armor spikes and armor spikes as your primary and secondary weapons.

Sure you can. Where did you read that you can't do that?

Check over the armor spike description again. You can attack with them as either a primary or an off-hand weapon. Unless you think the game designers meant that to be an "exclusive or" condition, you can make a primary attack, an off-hand attack or both.

An unarmed strike is the same way. You can make a primary attack or an off-hand attack with your unarmed strike. Clearly, you're better at this if you're a monk, but anybody can do it.