[SPOILER] Things to come in Star Wars Episode III

[Aaron2]

The clone theory is gaining broad appeal at the moment. It does beg the question. If Palpatine is just a cloned dupe. Why was Yoda staring at him so suspiciously in AotC?

And why was Palpatine councelling Annakin on how to be the most powerful Jedi of all?

The Sidious != Palpatine theory has lost a bit of credibility.


Aaron

 

[Staffan]

Naboo and Gungans will go -poof- so they aren't in IV V and VI

POOF!

Not at all necessary. After all, the Republic/Empire consists of thousands, if not millions of systems. By my count, the original movies took place on:

A New Hope: Tatooine, Yavin IV, and at the location where Alderaan would have been if it hadn't been blown to smithereens.

Empire Strikes Back: Hoth, Dagobah, Bespin.

Return of the Jedi: Tatooine, Endor.

That's a total of 7 planets, 6 if you don't count Alderaan - hardly an exhaustive look at the planets of the galaxy. The prequels add Coruscant, Naboo, Kamino and Geonosis to the list, bringing the total up to 11 (or 10) but that's still hardly a complete list of the planets of the Empire/Republic.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

And why was Palpatine councelling Annakin on how to be the most powerful Jedi of all?

The Sidious != Palpatine theory has lost a bit of credibility.

Because seeking to be powerful is a path to the Dark Side. Ego is a path to the Dark Side. Acting against the advice of his elders because he thinks that he is more attuned to the Force than they may well help lead Anakin to the Dark Side. The fact that Palpatine IS Sidious was never more obvious than in the scene where he was advising Anakin. From the nature of the advice right down to the two of them walking together in the same pose Vader and the Emperor walked in together in ROTJ.

 

[Fenros]

Canis wrote:

The fact that Palpatine IS Sidious was never more obvious than in the scene where he was advising Anakin. From the nature of the advice right down to the two of them walking together in the same pose Vader and the Emperor walked in together in ROTJ.

Agreed. But I'm still entertaining the idea that Palpatine is not really Sidious. Just a pawn of Sidious, a high ranking pawn, but a pawn. One that looks like him. A clone, or whatever.

Darth Sidious could easily hang out in the dark bowels of Coruscant secretly while his double runs things in open view. Sidious could instruct Palpatine to fan the flames of Anakin's trip to the dark side.

But this theory is very unlikely I know. So again, I don't take much stock in it. It was just a small fun wager between me and some friends.

One thing I do wonder. If indeed Palpatine is Darth Sidious, at what point did a noble from Naboo turn into a powerful Sith Lord? Was Palpatine's political background on Naboo faked? That seems like a hard thing to accomplish.

I find it hard to imagine this young man from Naboo going through his political climb while at the same time learning to become a Sith Lord. But who knows........

.......Padme was a Senator in her early twenties right? Maybe it doesn't take that long to become one on Naboo. Maybe Palpatine from age 15-40 did nothing but do dark side stuff secretly, then went into politics. Its kinda weird sounding. I imagine getting to the level Sidious is at to be something that consumes a lot of time.

I can imagine the election ballet for senator the first time Palpatine tries to become one.

"Check one of the following names for Senator:"

___Nayma Admarie (4 years Queen's Council, 3 years Diplomat)
___Vanaka Reema (7 years Foriegn Trade Administration)
___Palpatine (...uh...25 years post graduate school. Yah, that's it)

Okay, now I'm being silly. But its something to knock around in your head. Its possible, but I wonder if Lucas will explain it or not.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Boba Fett will return in EP3 I am betting. He will also be the one to kill Mace Windu.

When he kills Windu fully expect him to do it in some manner that completely disintigrates Mace's body. I also fully expect that Fett is hired to kill Windu by either the emperor or that Windu is one of the last Jedi killed and the order comes from Vader.

This then would add a little background to that scene in Empires where Vader hires the bounty hunters to go after Han Solo. At one point Vader very specifically tells Boba Fett "no disintigration".

This is pure speculation but Boba Fett really -should- return for Ep III. And be the one to kill Mace. If he's not, then there is little point to Mace killing Jango Fett, then cutting away later to Boba Fett with his dad's helmut, unless more was planned for this. Time doesn't even need to be a factor. We know clones can be speed grown, little Boba can go back to the cloners to be grown faster or something. As someone else already said in their sig.

"Hello. My name is Boba Fett. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

Padme was a Senator in her early twenties right? Maybe it doesn't take that long to become one on Naboo. Maybe Palpatine from age 15-40 did nothing but do dark side stuff secretly, then went into politics. Its kinda weird sounding. I imagine getting to the level Sidious is at to be something that consumes a lot of time.

Or maybe he's just a LOT older than he appears. He IS a powerful force user, and nothing in an official source ever said Sith can't live a long time.

 

[Corinth]

Lucas has said that Palpatine is Sidieous and not a clone. Lucas also said that Ep. 3 is to take place two years after AOTC, and thus 20 years before ANH. This makes Boba Fett unlikely to be the one who kills Mace Windu, especially in light of the fact that Lucas promised Jackson that Windu would have an honorable and noble death. It will be either Dooku or Anakin that cuts him down.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Lucas has said that Palpatine is Sidieous and not a clone.

I'd like a source on that, if you don't mind. Every comment and interview from Lucas that I've seen, he's refused to answer questions of that sort. In fact, I understand he's been pretty amused at everyone assuming that they are the same person.

So please, attributions if you would.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

I have heard the same thing about Lucas being amused by all of the assumptions. I sure hope they move things ahead further. Boba Fett really needs to kill Mace Windu and be developed as a stronger character. He may have looked cool in Empires and Jedi but he really had a small role and died off pretty quickly.

 

[Grim]

two things:

The clone theory actually has some substance because in later books the main enemys directly after RotJ are a series of clones of the emperor.

Also, Boba Fett does not actually die in RotJ. He just gets horribly messed up, but not before he kills that pit thingy. It was in the books, and maybe the comics

Later, though, he is killed by an ex-imperial Journeyman dude, who takes his armor, and masqerades as him, slowly going crazy, until he effectivly is Boba Fett. That i think was in the books... or maybe the comics...