Staples refuses to print my PDFs....

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That's why they have tasers, capsaicin spray, rubber bullets & beanbag shotguns...in addition to their nightsticks and guns.
 

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JVisgaitis said:
Anyone else?

To avoid the issue, I recommend a Samsung 510N (or later) color laser printer. Decent quality at a (for a color laser) cheap price. According to pricerunner the current model (600N) costs $399.98 at <irony>Staples</irony> (Though I've seen it cheaper elsewhere.)

So, if you want to toss them a few last dollars, buy a printer that means you won't have to return again. :)

I have the previous model (510N) and am quite happy with it. It prints pdf's beautifully, and printed color encounter maps look real nice. (Even though, lately, we've experimented with project the maps using a ceiling-mounted projector.)

/Jonas
 

Dannyalcatraz said:
Wow.

Asking to ascertain that you're not walking out of the store with merchandise you may not have paid for (intentionally or by some kind of mistake) is not unlawful detention in any state I know of. Even if they physically detain and search you.

Heck, depending upon the jurisdiction, refusing them the right to check your reciept against your purchases when asked may even constitute probable cause and could negate even a valid claim of unlawful imprisonment.

For it to be unlawful, they would have to take you into custody knowing you're not guilty or keep you in custody after determining that you're not guilty.

And if by "put them to the ground" you mean use physical force to resist the security personnel or other store employee (or cop, if one is around)- that act is likely to open you to civil and criminal penalties (depending upon just how much force you use and other facts).

I definitely wouldn't try that down here in Texas.

Actually Texas is more a friendly state to that then you think. :D

I don't easily sign my rights away by shoping in a store, if your willing to by all means let them.
And yes, if they try to physically impede me I will use what force is necessary. And please show me where a private citzen has the right to search you? You have citzen arrest laws for sure, but an alarm that goes off if the wind ain't right, isn't a justification for it.

Just the same if pulled over or speeding and the cop asks to search the vehicle I tell them no. I'll take my ticket and scoot on along.

Those who willingly give up their rights the best word to describe them is Sheple.
 

Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
 


Actually Texas is more a friendly state to that then you think.

I don't easily sign my rights away by shoping in a store, if your willing to by all means let them.
And yes, if they try to physically impede me I will use what force is necessary. And please show me where a private citzen has the right to search you? You have citzen arrest laws for sure, but an alarm that goes off if the wind ain't right, isn't a justification for it.

Just the same if pulled over or speeding and the cop asks to search the vehicle I tell them no. I'll take my ticket and scoot on along.

Check my sig- and I live & am licensed in Texas.

While most stores discourage using (non-deadly) force to deal with suspected shoplifters, it is 100% legal.

There are generally two different scenarios that are involved when we consider using force with regard to property, i.e., (1) using force to protect property or (2) using force to regain or recapture property of which one has been dispossessed.

Common Law Defense of Property - Under the common law, force, but not deadly force (DF), could be used to defend property. To repeat, DF cannot be used solely to defend property. Unlike Texas and to a much lesser extent the MPC, the common law treats human life as more valuable than mere property. At common law, one could use non-deadly force to protect real or personal property from imminent taking, damage, destruction, trespass, or dispossession. D could also use non-deadly force to re-enter real property to recover personal property immediately after it had been taken. Notice that if P, a property owner, used deadly force against D, a simple thief, in the absence of any actual or apparent threat of deadly force (or force) by D, D would have the right to use deadly force against P in response because P's use of deadly force to protect his property was unlawful.

MPC Defense of Property - Section 3.06 MPC deals with the use of force for the protection of property. Deadly force is permitted in a couple of very limited circumstances under 3.06(3)(d), i.e., (1) when D uses the deadly force he believes he is being dispossessed of his dwelling by V other than be a claim of right or (2) when V is attempting to commit or consummate arson, burglary, robbery, felonious theft or property destruction and either has employed or threatened deadly force against or in the presence of D or where the use of non-deadly force to prevent consummation or commission of the crime would expose D or another in D's presence to substantial danger of serious bodily injury.

Texas Defense of Property - Section 9.41 TPC authorizes use of force in defense of property; Section 9.42 TPC contains a very liberal law authorizing the use of DF to protect property. [Remember the hypo involving use of deadly force by D from his third floor condo at 2 a.m.against the bicycle thief who is fleeing from the parking lot.]

As for searching you, they really should just ask you for proof that you didn't steal anything (i.e. ask to match your receipt to your merchandise) and if you refuse and they still think you're a shoplifter, detain you until the police arrive- not because they can't do it, but because they're more likely to search you in a way that violates your rights. When a private citizen searches someone, they are held to the same standards as the police.

Rather than send you a book on Tx Crim law, I'll just give you these 2 reasonably accurate sites:

http://www.criminalattorney.com/pages/firm_articles_citizens_arrest.htm

http://www.studentweb.law.ttu.edu/ils/Outlines/outlines_texas_crim_pro_bubany.htm
 

EDIT: Danny said it better than I did, since he is a lawyer.

In any case, back on topic. I, like Mark at CMG, am going to be adding that little statement to my own products, so my customers don't get hassled. If all else fails, I'll print them a copy myself and mail it, if I have to.
 
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The thread is tip-toeing towards outright 'political discussion'; please stick with constructive comments for the original poster.

Thanks
 

Self-Publishers should- if I may be so bold- make the copy permission notice either part of the filename or in BIG letters on the 1st or second page.
 

S'mon said:
US fair use law lets you photocopy books you own for personal use, whatever the copyright owner says. Is it really different for e-books?
Seems to be for DVDs. :uhoh:

I'd say no, it's not different. And I'd say anyone who purchased a PDF from me could print it. But it's not for me to say that about someone else's PDF, and it's not for RPGnow/DtRPG to say either (legal under fair use or not).
 

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