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Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker Trailer


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Zardnaar

Legend
"Every generation has a legend"? I'm pretty sure they used that for The Phantom Menace trailer all those years ago.

Let me guess, the emperor is actually Anakin's father. The story was always his story. The emperor is the one who brings balance to the force? I might be only half joking here.
Comic confirmed that Palps is Vader's father of sorts via force manipulation.

Wonder if they will rehash Dark Empire. The Eclipse exists in the new canon so Palpatine in a clone body or dark side spirit?

One movie they can't really develop a new villain so they recycled Palpatine. Kinda had to since Darth Emo is ineffective.
 

Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Loved the Lando sighting. I had heard that each of the movies were also going to be wrapping up an arc of a character from the original trilogy - Han, Luke, then Leia. (That's what I think the whole training of Poe to be more than a hot shot pilot was in TLJ.) Carrie Fisher's untimely and saddening death may have caused a rejiggering of that, and having Lando show up as their legacy character may help complete that.

Oh, and enjoy this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFqtwlTXTPY&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2tK0Q2VBlbAs19Vtkwma5bbKKL1YSEadomicH66JKSbRDpwvEtTaJKdjI
 

Kaodi

Adventurer
I kind of wonder if Palpatine created Anakin to act as some sort of vessel in case he died, and that is also part of why he turned him into Vader, because he needs a dark side vessel. That potential is passed on through the Skywalker line, so Snoke corrupts Ben Solo into Kylo Ren to be a new vessel for Palpatine. But the Force, being a things of its own, has a play as well: the spirit of Anakin Skywalker is given a vessel/champion too in the form of Rey. That explains how she is both a nobody and yet intimately connected to the lightsaber: she is a vessel though not a true reincarnation. The final battle will have two aspects, just like the prequel trilogy, but it will be partly metaphysical: Rey vs Ren, and Skywalker vs Palpatine. In this way Rey becomes "the Skywalker" and Ren "the Emperor/Sith" in new version of the dichotomy between the Daughter and the Son. Or something like that.
 

I like the trailer a lot!

My guess is that Rey will take the name Skywalker in honor of Luke, but we’ll see. I liked Last Jedi a lot, and I liked the idea of Rey having no pre-existing connection to the mythos.

But I also have no problem with them revealing that there is a connection, as long as they have an interesting way to do that. The emperor laughing at the end as they look on the ruins of the Death Star makes it seem like he’s been behind all of it...and if that’s the case, then Rey having some kind of connection would make sense.

But we’ll see. I try not to go into these movies with strong expectations on the content because I think it’s pretty obvious that’s what ruins the fun for everyone.
 

Look, clearly Palpatine survived the fall into the reactor, and then survived the Death Star explosion, and then survived the fall into Endor's gravity well, and has just been chilling out waiting for somebody to come pick him up.
 

Mustrum_Ridcully

Adventurer
Look, clearly Palpatine survived the fall into the reactor, and then survived the Death Star explosion, and then survived the fall into Endor's gravity well, and has just been chilling out waiting for somebody to come pick him up.
I think he was obviously doing nothing there. "Damn, this Sith thing is totally not working. I got almost killed by my pupil, and my beautiful Peace Moon lies in ruins.
I think it's probably best if the Sith die out and we forget this whole nonsense. It will never work."
And for a few decades, he was just fine walking through the debris, occasionally scaring a random Ewok that dared to venture into the wreck.
One day, when Palpatine is just watching across the Superlaser into the forest, some guy appears behind him. Palpatine turns around. It's Kylo Ren (well, he doesn't know that, because he has closed himself from the force, but the audience knows), holding out Darth Vader's old helmet, as if it was some kind of gift. Palpatine takes it, and throws it behind him. "What's with that old garbage? Thirsty for some Ewok Tears? I sure am. Follow me!"
 


Eltab

Hero
Look, clearly Palpatine survived the fall into the reactor, and then survived the Death Star explosion, and then survived the fall into Endor's gravity well, and has just been chilling out waiting for somebody to come pick him up.
New Sith power: Survive Infinite Falls.
For Palpatine, the exploding reactor was just a push so he was falling in another direction.
 

Legatus_Legionis

< BLAH HA Ha ha >
One of the rumours from Mike Zero is that for a period of time, Luke Skywalker becomes more than just a force ghost, but of flesh...

Hince the "Rise of Skywalker"!

I did like the Emperor's laugh in the trailer... I think it might have been the best part of the trailer.
Mark Hamill had posted on twitter, solving this mystery.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/celebrity/mark-hamill-solves-who-is-laughing-in-rise-of-skywalker-trailer/ar-BBVUmpF?li=AAggSpD&ocid=mailsignout#page=2

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Legatus_Legionis

< BLAH HA Ha ha >
New Sith power: Survive Infinite Falls.
For Palpatine, the exploding reactor was just a push so he was falling in another direction.
Correct!

Robot Chicken has this, and here is the proof:
[video=youtube;5qAKXK_aLeA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qAKXK_aLeA[/video]


< HA Ha ha >

Gotta love Robot Chicken!
 

Mercurius

Legend
It looks good...or, at least, there is nothing that stands out as "Uh-oh."

That said, not sure how I feel about the Palpatine implication. I mean, if he's not dead after ROTJ, then he's virtually unkillable. I suppose he could be a force ghost, and then maybe we can have a rematch of him and Luke as force ghosts. Or would they need proxies?

One other thought: maybe this will allow them to redeem Kylo Ren, and say that he was in essence possessed or at least strongly influenced by Palpatine's urgings. Maybe what needs to happen for the Force to be "healed" is for someone to not only turn away from the Dark back to the Light, but do so and live...Anakin did it, but died and thus was never really tested.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
That said, not sure how I feel about the Palpatine implication.
Yeah. I'm not sure this is a creatively rich direction. I am hoping for something in the "Project Cinder" line, in which Palpatine left behind plans that would reach fruition only after a long period of time.
 

Mercurius

Legend
Yeah. I'm not sure this is a creatively rich direction. I am hoping for something in the "Project Cinder" line, in which Palpatine left behind plans that would reach fruition only after a long period of time.
That makes sense to me. The problem seems to be that none of the Ep 7-8 villains are really evocative - not Darth Emo, Snoke, or the First Order. But at this point, it would be odd to introduce a new villain...so maybe they decided to circle back around to the tried and true Palpatine.
 

MarkB

Legend
I get a strong impression that Rey and Kylo will end up teaming up in this one. The scene at the start simply doesn't work as a confrontation - Kylo in his starfighter could have ripped through Rey with a barrage of laser fire before getting close to her, or wiped her out when she made her leap just by flying slightly upwards.

It feels like either a training exercise, or the set-up for a combo move - maybe Rey winds up riding on top of Kylo's fighter as they head in against a mutual foe.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
That makes sense to me. The problem seems to be that none of the Ep 7-8 villains are really evocative - not Darth Emo, Snoke, or the First Order. But at this point, it would be odd to introduce a new villain...so maybe they decided to circle back around to the tried and true Palpatine.
They don't have time to develop a new villain. They can use the Emperor without resurrecting him though either his legacy (they have hinted at this in the new books) or as Umbran said something like Project Cinder where Palpatine left behind Droids with his personality/instructions in them.

I liked most of the trailer but I thought the TIE fighter jumping was kinda lame along with Palpatines laughter at the end, the rest was quite good. The TIE jumping was more Sonic the Hedgehog to me a'la The Clone Wars (bit much/silly), and Palpatine laughing was more "really they're going there". Palpatine resurrected, surviving in spirit form, or legacy is a good question to raise though see how they execute it.

In the new canon they confirmed that Palpatine is basically Anakins father, he could theoretically survive as a dark side spirit in the wreckage of the Death Star II. Rey could be a force experiment 2.0 a'la Anakin was one thought I did have as Palpatine's spirit could conceivably create a new person. Just hope they don't go with Palaptines spirit tries to possess Rey as he created her with the intention of getting a new body (its been done before). There is also a little something left behind on Jakku in the new canon.
 

Mercurius

Legend
If Palpatine survived in any form what I question--aside from just the improbableness--is the time gap...what is it, 30 years? What has he been doing?

The new body for Palpatine thing is intriguing.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
If Palpatine survived in any form what I question--aside from just the improbableness--is the time gap...what is it, 30 years? What has he been doing?

The new body for Palpatine thing is intriguing.
It was an idea from the old EU and the new one as they had Palps create Anakin. The old EU he had clone bodies he oculd switch between.

In both EUs Sith spirits are a thing, they are generally tied to a location like a tomb or whatever. Yoda came across Darth banes spirit on Korriban.
If you have played the KoToR games similar thing with their spirits. So some fragment of Palatine surviving makes sense in universe old and new canon. With clones and spontaneous creation of life being possible along with possession there are several ways they can go. Palps laughter could be a flashback, spirit, clone, resurrection, AI program, or possession. Resurrection would be kind of a groan, the others are a bit more interesting. It would also tie the 3 trilogies together. If Rey isn't technically a Skywalker but was created in a similar way and claims the Skywalker name, whats in a technicality/name.
 
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